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[Valley Man]

A1 is fouled attempting a 3 point shot. A1 is suppose to get 3 FT. U2 signals to table 3 shots then gets drawn into a conversation with coach. Administering officials give A1 2 shots. The 2nd shot is rebounded by Team A and they proceed to take 2 shots before Team A is whistled for a rebounding foul putting Team B in the bonus. Walking to the other end for 1 and 1 the officials are alerted that A1 was not awarded his 3rd shot.

A. Award A1 his merited FT (lane clear) and then return to other end for Team B 1 and 1

B. Disregard the foul (not intentional or flagrant) on Team A and put A1 on line for 3rd shot with lane occupied

[bob jenkins]

A

[sdoebler]

This is one of five correctable errors in NFHS.

[JRutledge]

You cannot disregard the foul because you have a correctable error.


So A is the only way to go.

Also, this is why when you have a foul that might be a 3 or a 2, not only the calling official has to be adamant about making sure you communicate that to the administering officials or crew what the foul situation is in the first place. Talking to the coach is very secondary.

Peace

[Valley Man]

OK .. so 2-10-6 is only applicable if there are no shots and the team maintains possession?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

OK .. so 2-10-6 is only applicable if there are no shots and the team maintains possession?

What do missed shots have to do with the rule?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Valley Man

OK .. so 2-10-6 is only applicable if there are no shots and the team maintains possession?

Not correct. The real issue is when is there a "change of possession."

[DrPete]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Not correct. The real issue is when is there a "change of possession."

The time limit for correcting a correctable error is:
2-10 ART. 2
In order to correct any of the officials' errors listed in Article 1, such error must be recognized by an official no later than during the first dead ball after the clock has properly started.

After a made basket, the ball is dead until at the disposal for the next throw in. So after a made basket, the error must be discovered before the next throw in begins. There can be a change in possession, as long as there is no dead ball.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by DrPete

The time limit for correcting a correctable error is:
2-10 ART. 2
In order to correct any of the officials' errors listed in Article 1, such error must be recognized by an official no later than during the first dead ball after the clock has properly started.

After a made basket, the ball is dead until at the disposal for the next throw in. So after a made basket, the error must be discovered before the next throw in begins. There can be a change in possession, as long as there is no dead ball.

Yes, I know that. But how you correct the error can depend on change of possession

[SNIPERBBB]

2-10-6 always applies to CE's. To break it down...

All CE's resume play at the POI when it was correctly recognized, except for when there is a change in possession and the CE requires free throws to be attempted.

With no change in possession, play resumes from the free throws.

With a change, shoot the free throws with no players along the lane, then you resume play at the POI, which in this case would be FT's by B.

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Also, this is why when you have a foul that might be a 3 or a 2, not only the calling official has to be adamant about making sure you communicate that to the administering officials or crew what the foul situation is in the first place. Talking to the coach is very secondary.

Peace

I take some pride in my now-defunct officiating career that this was a non-negotiable with me whether doing 2- or 3-man crews. While we always tried to be efficient/quick with FT administration we always pre-gamed that all of us would indicate the number of free throws to be attempted prior to placing the ball at the disposal of the shooter.

The quote went something like "4 out of the 5 CE have to do with FT. Let's not have to worry about those 4 tonight."

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

2-10-6 always applies to CE's. To break it down...

All CE's resume play at the POI when it was correctly recognized, except for when there is a change in possession and the CE requires free throws to be attempted.

With no change in possession, play resumes from the free throws.

With a change, shoot the free throws with no players along the lane, then you resume play at the POI, which in this case would be FT's by B.

And, so the issue in the OP is "does the foul by A constitute a change in possession?" Since a held ball can constitute a change (see 2.10.1F (?), I would say that a foul does, too.

[SNIPERBBB]

I'd hate to imagine the cluster that would result if it would not be considered a change in possession.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

I'd hate to imagine the cluster that would result if it would not be considered a change in possession.

Many CEs result in a cluster, even when they are administered correctly (well, correctly after the initial screw up)

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Many CEs result in a cluster, even when they are administered correctly (well, correctly after the initial screw up)

Which results in some officials not adhering to the rules and instead doing what they believe is fair because they don't want the home team to get an unfair advantage.