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[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by justacoach

You'll learn to parse your words correctly with this crowd
Lots of sharp cookies here.

Agree, this sitch does require a solid understanding of advantage gained. That was a major point when this action changed from violation to a T several years back.

You have it backwards. It was changed from a T to a violation...unless you're going much farther back than I remember.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You have it backwards. It was changed from a T to a violation...unless you're going much farther back than I remember.

Are we talking about a player purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds; or a player leaving the court for an unauthorized reason?

[justacoach]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

You have it backwards. It was changed from a T to a violation...unless you're going much farther back than I remember.

Mea maxima culpa, confusion in the nether reaches of my addled mind.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by justacoach

Mea maxima culpa, confusion in the nether reaches of my addled mind.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Are we talking about a player purposely and/or deceitfully delay returning after legally being out of bounds; or a player leaving the court for an unauthorized reason?

Could somebody please straighten me out?

I would like to hear more about the history of this change from a violation to a technical foul, or from a technical foul to violation.

[just another ref]

With regard to advantage gained, we still must see the bigger picture. A1 makes a throw-in waits a few counts then sprints down the end line around a double screen, catches a pass and hits a three. Clear advantage gained and an easy call. But, they run the same play, B1 recognizes it and switches to pick up A1. A2 make a backdoor cut, receives a pass and shoots a layup.

The offending player doesn't have to be directly involved in the play (touch the ball) to create an advantage