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Raymond Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:06am
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1013036)
Exactly as I would rule the first time that I see it.
Why even bring up the question when you already posted the rule that said it had to be a touch by an opponent?

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BillyMac Sat Dec 16, 2017 03:18pm
Details Matter ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond (Post 1013040)
Why even bring up the question when you already posted the rule that said it had to be a touch by an opponent?
While a simple touch by an opponent would allow a new dribble, the same touch by a teammate would not allow a new dribble; it would have to be a pass or fumble that was touched by a teammate.

Raymond Sat Dec 16, 2017 03:52pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1013057)
While a simple touch by an opponent would allow a new dribble, the same touch by a teammate would not allow a new dribble; it would have to be a pass or fumble that was touched by a teammate.
Exactly, and the rule you posted said it had to be a touch by an opponent.

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just another ref Sat Dec 16, 2017 04:04pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1013057)
While a simple touch by an opponent would allow a new dribble, the same touch by a teammate would not allow a new dribble; it would have to be a pass or fumble that was touched by a teammate.
If a player is holding the ball and it is touched by the opponent, are you saying that alone means he can start a new dribble?

BillyMac Sat Dec 16, 2017 06:21pm
Illegal Dribble ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 1013067)
If a player is holding the ball and it is touched by the opponent, are you saying that alone means he can start a new dribble?
By the written rule, yes I am.

9-5 Illegal Dribble: A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of:
ART. 1 A try for field goal.
ART. 2 A touch by an opponent.
ART. 3 A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by,
another player.

But I'm open to other interpretations (this is why I posted this situation).

just another ref Sat Dec 16, 2017 07:06pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1013082)
By the written rule, yes I am.

9-5 Illegal Dribble: A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of:
ART. 1 A try for field goal.
ART. 2 A touch by an opponent.
ART. 3 A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by,
another player.

But I'm open to other interpretations (this is why I posted this situation).
:)

Raymond Sat Dec 16, 2017 09:04pm
It doesn't say a mere touch. It says "after he/she has lost control because of:.. a touch by an opponent"

So no, an offendive teammate cannot just come over and slap the ball out of your hand so you can dribble again.

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BillyMac Sun Dec 17, 2017 06:26am
Reading Is Fundamental ...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 1013095)
:)
I had it right, then I had it wrong. A case of paying more attention to the articles than to the introductory clause. Thanks for the correction.


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