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Wed Dec 06, 2017 06:11pm |
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Originally Posted by CJP
(Post 1012452)
Rule 4 Section 12
Art 2...A team is in control of the ball:
b. While a live ball is being passed among teammates.
Rule 4 Section 31
A pass is movement of the ball caused by a player who throws, bats or rolls the ball to another player.
So if the "intentional" batting of the ball into the backcourt was to a teammate then this is a backcourt violation.
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When I read through all of the responses in this thread, I knew that you would cite this rule. What you fail to grasp is that a pass does not establish team control, it only continues it if it already exists. You are only looking at part of the rule instead of the whole thing.
Team control has three parts: 1. establishment, 2. continuation, 3. termination
Batting or tapping the ball cannot establish team control. Only holding or dribbling a live ball inbounds can do that.
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Originally Posted by CJP
(Post 1012457)
1.) It is not required (for the backcourt violation)
2.) A player who passes the ball without establishing player control just pulled off a neat trick.
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1. Establishment of player & team control inbounds absolutely is required for the backcourt violation!
May I direct you to the POE on page 69 of the NFHS Rules Book from this season for you to read?
"With specific regard to the backcourt violation, a team may not be the last to touch a live ball in the front court and then be the first to touch a live ball in the backcourt, provided that team has established player control/team control on the playing court (either in the backcourt or frontcourt).
There are only two ways to establish player control: holding or dribbling the ball. Passing is not a method to establish player control and that is why you are incorrect about this play.
2. It's purely definitional, but definitely possible. Batting a rebound to a teammate is one example. It also happens during a throw-in pass. There used to be no team control at all during throw-ins, now there is a specific throw-in team control only for fouls, which does not pertain to backcourt violations. Some people refer to this as a false or fake team control.
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