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just another ref Tue Nov 28, 2017 06:18pm
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Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 1011989)
I've never understood why that isn't considered a dribble. But it isn't.

And then, to me, it gets metaphysical. If it bounces, it's a dribble, right? And is it possible to put down the ball without some bounce? So how much bounce before it becomes a dribble instead of a travel?
The key word here is "put." In the case above the player is said to "put" the ball on the floor. In the start of a dribble the player is said to "push the ball to the floor." This indicates a bounce.

Camron Rust Tue Nov 28, 2017 08:53pm
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Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 1011989)
I've never understood why that isn't considered a dribble. But it isn't.

And then, to me, it gets metaphysical. If it bounces, it's a dribble, right? And is it possible to put down the ball without some bounce? So how much bounce before it becomes a dribble instead of a travel?
Probably because it would be a little more difficult to control it in the form of a dribble and just putting the ball down on the floor. As a dribble, it has some greater change of getting away from the player.

Nevadaref Wed Nov 29, 2017 04:57am
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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 1011981)
You can count on a couple wrong answers on the NFHS test every year. Not sure if it is poor proofreading on their part or what, but there are almost always at least 2 that the "answer key" has wrong. If that gets us into our rule and case books more deeply, so be it.
I always thought that it was to show who the cheaters are. The people who get a copy of the answer key will get 100% while clearly answering those two or three questions incorrectly. Nearly everyone else in the group who reads and answers the questions with their own mind will have those questions scored as incorrect, but the test-giver will know that they really know the rule and didn't cheat.

Raymond Wed Nov 29, 2017 09:54am
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1012010)
I always thought that it was to show who the cheaters are. The people who get a copy of the answer key will get 100% while clearly answering those two or three questions incorrectly. Nearly everyone else in the group who reads and answers the questions with their own mind will have those questions scored as incorrect, but the test-giver will know that they really know the rule and didn't cheat.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that's it. :rolleyes:

CJP Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:58am
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1012010)
I always thought that it was to show who the cheaters are. The people who get a copy of the answer key will get 100% while clearly answering those two or three questions incorrectly. Nearly everyone else in the group who reads and answers the questions with their own mind will have those questions scored as incorrect, but the test-giver will know that they really know the rule and didn't cheat.
Any of you cheaters who read this, make sure you get a few wrong so you don't bring attention to yourself.

Camron Rust Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:24pm
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Originally Posted by CJP (Post 1012027)
Any of you cheaters who read this, make sure you get a few wrong so you don't bring attention to yourself.
If it were true, it wouldn't be about getting a couple of random questions wrong. It would be a couple of very specific questions that no one should get wrong. Sort of the "control" in the experiment.

That said, I doubt the NFHS is doing that.

rockyroad Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1012010)
I always thought that it was to show who the cheaters are. The people who get a copy of the answer key will get 100% while clearly answering those two or three questions incorrectly. Nearly everyone else in the group who reads and answers the questions with their own mind will have those questions scored as incorrect, but the test-giver will know that they really know the rule and didn't cheat.
Interesting thought...I used to send messages to the NFHS asking for clarification on some of those "wrong" answers. Most of the time they would admit the mistake. Then Washington started using their own tests and not the NFHS one. So I didn't care anymore.

CJP Wed Nov 29, 2017 03:55pm
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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 1012031)
If it were true, it wouldn't be about getting a couple of random questions wrong. It would be a couple of very specific questions that no one should get wrong. Sort of the "control" in the experiment.

That said, I doubt the NFHS is doing that.
I was joking. The whole idea is stupid.

OKREF Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:40pm
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Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 1011989)
I've never understood why that isn't considered a dribble. But it isn't.

And then, to me, it gets metaphysical. If it bounces, it's a dribble, right? And is it possible to put down the ball without some bounce? So how much bounce before it becomes a dribble instead of a travel?
This was my thought as well....Seems it would be an illegal dribble and not traveling...

bucky Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:36am
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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 1012058)
This was my thought as well....Seems it would be an illegal dribble and not traveling...
I say just make it legal.;)

grunewar Thu Nov 30, 2017 04:49am
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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 1011981)
You can count on a couple wrong answers on the NFHS test every year. Not sure if it is poor proofreading on their part or what, but there are almost always at least 2 that the "answer key" has wrong. If that gets us into our rule and case books more deeply, so be it.
I'm using that as the reason I've never gotten a perfect score! Thanks. :o

Pantherdreams Thu Nov 30, 2017 07:39am
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Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1012062)
I say just make it legal.;)
Could we make it legal in one state first. Lets say Colorado . . . then we can see how it works there ;)


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