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#76 Wed Oct 04, 2017 10:43am

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1009608)
What is there to consider? It's a rule, isn't it?

Yup, sure is.

Smitty Wed Oct 04, 2017 12:44pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1009608)
What is there to consider? It's a rule, isn't it?

States can veer from the rules as they choose. Texas has been using 2-handed reporting for a couple years now.

JRutledge Wed Oct 04, 2017 01:02pm

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 1009661)
States can veer from the rules as they choose. Texas has been using 2-handed reporting for a couple years now.

Well, that is more of a mechanic, which any state can do what they want.

Peace

Rich Wed Oct 04, 2017 02:12pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1009664)
Well, that is more of a mechanic, which any state can do what they want.

Peace

It's in the rules book. Therefore, it's a rule.

JRutledge Wed Oct 04, 2017 02:15pm

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Originally Posted by Rich (Post 1009668)
It's in the rules book. Therefore, it's a rule.

It is now, but it was not previously if memory serves me correctly.

Peace

SC Official Wed Oct 04, 2017 02:29pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1009669)
It is now, but it was not previously if memory serves me correctly.

Peace

It was.

Rule 2-9-1 has always specified the number of hands we (are supposed to) report fouls with. They changed "one hand" to "two hands" this offseason.

And yes, I know that states can and will do whatever they want.

JRutledge Wed Oct 04, 2017 02:54pm

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1009670)
It was.

Rule 2-9-1 has always specified the number of hands we (are supposed to) report fouls with. They changed "one hand" to "two hands" this offseason.

And yes, I know that states can and will do whatever they want.

Then this makes my point as I have been stating. They did what they wanted to do before as I said before and after. Thanks for proving my point.

And Texas was not even close to the only state that used 2 hand reporting before the rules change this year.

I believe Georgia allowed 2 hand reporting in the past (they allowed walk and talk too), as well as that mechanic, was clearly in a video they put out some years ago. So much for "They must follow the National Federation Rules" argument. They were not doing it before as it related to mechanics situations. Heck, even uniform situations are also stated in the rules for what the officials wear and we know that there were states not using black and white striped shirts in all situations.

Peace

SC Official Wed Oct 04, 2017 04:37pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1009671)
Then this makes my point as I have been stating. They did what they wanted to do before as I said before and after. Thanks for proving my point.

And Texas was not even close to the only state that used 2 hand reporting before the rules change this year.

I believe Georgia allowed 2 hand reporting in the past (they allowed walk and talk too), as well as that mechanic, was clearly in a video they put out some years ago. So much for "They must follow the National Federation Rules" argument. They were not doing it before as it related to mechanics situations. Heck, even uniform situations are also stated in the rules for what the officials wear and we know that there were states not using black and white striped shirts in all situations.

Peace

Georgia has used women's CCA mechanics for many years now.

No one on this forum, Rich and I included, has ever argued this. So I'm not sure why you act like you've made some astounding realization that we should all kiss your feet for. I proved absolutely nothing because you never made a point on this topic that we didn't already know. But if it makes you feel better, go on ahead.

JRutledge Wed Oct 04, 2017 04:59pm

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1009676)
Georgia has used women's CCA mechanics for many years now.

No one on this forum, Rich and I included, has ever argued this. So I'm not sure why you act like you've made some astounding realization that we should all kiss your feet for. I proved absolutely nothing because you never made a point on this topic that we didn't already know. But if it makes you feel better, go on ahead.

And I was not arguing anything, I was stating a fact. Stating a fact should not be an issue with anyone on this site, as we have people that love to correct people on all kinds of issues that are stated.

Since we are talking about what states have accepted or not accepted, it should be OK for someone to state what is not obvious to everyone. You and I have had this conversation about 2 hand reporting (which seems like you have an issue with someone talking about this rules change) but others have not. I was not talking to you about the policy or rule BTW. Just stating that if Texas was going outside of the rule, they clearly are not being hurt by that fact they are doing their own thing. Having lived in Texas that seems to be a common theme with them. :)

Either way, the people of the NF have stated many things as to what is usually a problem when the rules are not followed by state policy. It appears that any mechanic is not something they even worry about as much as those here do.

Peace

BillyMac Wed Oct 04, 2017 06:19pm

We Do Whatever We Want, We're Rebels I Tell You, Rebels ...
 
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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1009670)
I know that states can and will do whatever they want.

In Connecticut, a player, after lifting his pivot foot, may legally take three steps, as long as the three steps are a hop, a skip, and a jump.

Also, dunks count two points, other field goals from within the arc count three points, and other field goals from outside the arc count four points.

ronny mulkey Mon Oct 09, 2017 04:14am

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1009676)
Georgia has used women's CCA mechanics for many years now.

No one on this forum, Rich and I included, has ever argued this. So I'm not sure why you act like you've made some astounding realization that we should all kiss your feet for. I proved absolutely nothing because you never made a point on this topic that we didn't already know. But if it makes you feel better, go on ahead.

In our group, we no longer distribute the NFHS officials manual on the years they are published. We follow CCA for floor coverages and most mechanics. We follow NFHS primarily but and we do follow GHSA direction when ordered.

nziv12 Thu Oct 12, 2017 11:52am

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Originally Posted by griblets (Post 1009190)
Per the 2017-18 FHSAA Basketball Sport Manual 4.2.1.1.1 Competition Rules, Florida is keeping the 14' coaching box.

Well that’s odd. I’m in FL, and in our last meeting for my association we discussed how the FHSAA is adopting the 28’ box. I wonder which to use now.


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