Backboard slap
Men's league last night. On a run out lay up, defender slaps backboard hard. Partner calls the basket good. I tried to tell him it wasn't goaltending or interference but he was set in decision.
My question is this: in HS/NFHS, the only penalty can be a T in this situation. Correct? And how often have you had to call it? Is it almost automatic or does it just never happen? |
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Last night the layup was from right and defense slapped left side very hard. IMO, should have been a T. Partner blew it first, counted bucket. I'm just a fill in and he is the regular so I went with it.
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Never had it happen, but as described, not a lot of judgement needed. |
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I think his point was that if the ball doesn't go in, you cannot ever count it for a backboard slap because a backboard slap is never BI under NFHS. |
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The basket would count if the ball goes in the basket. It just would not be a BI. It would just be a result of the play. The T does not kill the ball in this situation. The action that causes the T is separate, regardless of the basket going in or not. Or at least that should be the mindset.
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NCAA-M rules differ on this, so be sure which rule set you're using.
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Since you brought it up, a slap like this in NCAA does not automatically warrant a BI call, right? The rim would still need to be moving as a result of the slap while the ball is on or within the basket or in the cylinder, correct? Again, never BI in NFHS. I like how another poster pointed out that a foul by the defense (in this case a slapping T) does not cause the ball to become dead during a try. Heck, continuous motion even applies in this case. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Misunderstood Rules ...
Slapping the backboard is neither basket interference, nor is it goaltending, and points cannot be awarded. A player who strikes a backboard, during a tap, or a try, so forcefully that it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player, or a means of venting frustration, may be assessed a technical foul. When a player simply attempts to block a shot, and accidentally slaps the backboard, it is neither a violation, nor is it a technical foul.
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within the basket or the backboard and/or is on or in the cylinder." |
Many men's recreational leagues players, league managers, and officials hold the perspective that that they go by NCAA rules in men's league games; maybe, that is why they are penalizing such "backboard slapping" actions.
Also, in NF there is no goal-tending if for example during a layup try: the ball contacts the backboard and while on the way "up" (ascending), then defender blocks it before it begins the descending motion towards the rim. This is simply, a blocked shot/good defense. Of course when no call is made, one can oft hear the players, coaches, and fans expressions of "displeasure".:eek::confused: |
I would be surprised if most wreck league players, coaches, directors, etc. even know what they're talking about when they say "we use NCAA rules." I highly doubt they're using a shot clock and highly doubt there's an RA painted on the floor. And outside of those two major FED/NCAA differences, your typical wreck participant won't be able to name many others.
Heck, even most wreck league officials probably don't have a thorough knowledge of NCAA rules. Which is why leagues acting like they play under that ruleset is comical. |
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