Backboard slap
Men's league last night. On a run out lay up, defender slaps backboard hard. Partner calls the basket good. I tried to tell him it wasn't goaltending or interference but he was set in decision.
My question is this: in HS/NFHS, the only penalty can be a T in this situation. Correct? And how often have you had to call it? Is it almost automatic or does it just never happen? |
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Last night the layup was from right and defense slapped left side very hard. IMO, should have been a T. Partner blew it first, counted bucket. I'm just a fill in and he is the regular so I went with it.
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Never had it happen, but as described, not a lot of judgement needed. |
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I think his point was that if the ball doesn't go in, you cannot ever count it for a backboard slap because a backboard slap is never BI under NFHS. |
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The basket would count if the ball goes in the basket. It just would not be a BI. It would just be a result of the play. The T does not kill the ball in this situation. The action that causes the T is separate, regardless of the basket going in or not. Or at least that should be the mindset.
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NCAA-M rules differ on this, so be sure which rule set you're using.
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Since you brought it up, a slap like this in NCAA does not automatically warrant a BI call, right? The rim would still need to be moving as a result of the slap while the ball is on or within the basket or in the cylinder, correct? Again, never BI in NFHS. I like how another poster pointed out that a foul by the defense (in this case a slapping T) does not cause the ball to become dead during a try. Heck, continuous motion even applies in this case. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Misunderstood Rules ...
Slapping the backboard is neither basket interference, nor is it goaltending, and points cannot be awarded. A player who strikes a backboard, during a tap, or a try, so forcefully that it cannot be ignored because it is an attempt to draw attention to the player, or a means of venting frustration, may be assessed a technical foul. When a player simply attempts to block a shot, and accidentally slaps the backboard, it is neither a violation, nor is it a technical foul.
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within the basket or the backboard and/or is on or in the cylinder." |
Many men's recreational leagues players, league managers, and officials hold the perspective that that they go by NCAA rules in men's league games; maybe, that is why they are penalizing such "backboard slapping" actions.
Also, in NF there is no goal-tending if for example during a layup try: the ball contacts the backboard and while on the way "up" (ascending), then defender blocks it before it begins the descending motion towards the rim. This is simply, a blocked shot/good defense. Of course when no call is made, one can oft hear the players, coaches, and fans expressions of "displeasure".:eek::confused: |
I would be surprised if most wreck league players, coaches, directors, etc. even know what they're talking about when they say "we use NCAA rules." I highly doubt they're using a shot clock and highly doubt there's an RA painted on the floor. And outside of those two major FED/NCAA differences, your typical wreck participant won't be able to name many others.
Heck, even most wreck league officials probably don't have a thorough knowledge of NCAA rules. Which is why leagues acting like they play under that ruleset is comical. |
Yet Another Misunderstood Rule ...
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The backboard has nothing to do with goaltending. Goaltending is when a player touches the ball during a try, or tap, while it is in its downward flight, entirely above the basket ring level, outside the imaginary cylinder above the ring, and has the possibility of entering the basket. On most layups, the ball is going up immediately after it contacts the backboard. It is legal to pin the ball against the backboard if it still on the way up, and is not in the imaginary cylinder above the basket. |
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