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Old Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:06pm
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I am going to disagree with all of you. For one the rule states that the goal is not scored until the ball remains in or passes through the basket. Well the ball does not really go through the basket until 0.3.

There is also no evidence they did not look at this. They have an alternate as well and if there was an issue he can to my knowledge let the crew now. There appeared to be a timeout or some stoppage for some time so I am sure they looked at this. But they did appear to get it right based on the pure rule and we know we must prove that we know the exact rule and apply it to the letter. I am not convinced that 0.4 would have been accurate considering that the ball appears to still be in the net. In other words they would be splitting hairs and IMO making a judgment that would be tight at best. They would get killed if they reviewed this later and Kentucky had made a big basket later. That is an easy decision sitting here at a computer screen or on a couch to make such a decision IMO. But hey, what do I know, just giving an opinion that means nothing in the end right?

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I agree with Jrut. I froze/play/froze play the video and I thought that the ball was touching the net with .6, .5, and .4 seconds. When the ball was no longer in contact with the net, it read .3. I am actually surprised at how accurately they stopped the clock at .3. Probably 100 other clock operators would have stopped it at .2 or less.
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Old Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:29pm
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I am actually surprised at how accurately they stopped the clock at .3. Probably 100 other clock operators would have stopped it at .2 or less.
I think the clock guy got lucky.
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Old Mon Mar 27, 2017, 02:15am
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I agree with Jrut. I froze/play/froze play the video and I thought that the ball was touching the net with .6, .5, and .4 seconds. When the ball was no longer in contact with the net, it read .3. I am actually surprised at how accurately they stopped the clock at .3. Probably 100 other clock operators would have stopped it at .2 or less.
While it was touching the bottom of the net, it was outside of it with the net laying on top of it. That is all that is required. It was entirely through by 0.5.
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Old Mon Mar 27, 2017, 02:21am
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While it was touching the bottom of the net, it was outside of it with the net laying on top of it. That is all that is required. It was entirely through by 0.5.
I did not see anything that suggests the ball was completely through at .5. Maybe .4 at best, but the video is inconclusive. I think they got it right based on the angles we have and have shown. I think that is a stretch and would take detailed examining to determine either way. I am good with what they did.

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Old Mon Mar 27, 2017, 08:26am
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Video Requests - thanks JRut!

SC/FL, 2nd half, 7:55, looks like illegal screen (feet too wide), typically not called?

SC/FL, 2nd half, 4:50, Throw-In Violation (Very close, nit-picky, I guess you don't want to be "That guy")

UK/UNC, 2nd half, 1:22, definitely looked like a travel
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Old Mon Mar 27, 2017, 11:07am
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SC/FL, 2nd half, 7:55, looks like illegal screen (feet too wide), typically not called?


I do not think this is illegal. I see no contact with the legs or enough where I would call a foul. I am not under the impression that simply setting a "wide" screen is a foul. The contact has to be with the part of the body that is wide from my understanding. At least that is how it is done in practice.

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SC/FL, 2nd half, 4:50, Throw-In Violation (Very close, nit-picky, I guess you don't want to be "That guy")


It looks like the ball is out of his hand before the foot comes down.

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UK/UNC, 2nd half, 1:22, definitely looked like a travel
This is the right play.



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What part of this did you think this was a travel?

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The travel was in the UNC/UK game.
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The travel was in the UNC/UK game.
I'm sorry, I will correct this immediately.

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The travel was in the UNC/UK game.
Corrected it.

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