NCAA Tournament (Elite 8 Games) Video Requests - Saturday and Sunday

[OKREF]

Originally Posted by ODog

SC/Fla, 10:00 first half. Is this a travel?

Yes, ends dribble with right foot on floor, picks it up and puts it down before shooting or passing

[bucky]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am going to disagree with all of you. For one the rule states that the goal is not scored until the ball remains in or passes through the basket. Well the ball does not really go through the basket until 0.3.

There is also no evidence they did not look at this. They have an alternate as well and if there was an issue he can to my knowledge let the crew now. There appeared to be a timeout or some stoppage for some time so I am sure they looked at this. But they did appear to get it right based on the pure rule and we know we must prove that we know the exact rule and apply it to the letter. I am not convinced that 0.4 would have been accurate considering that the ball appears to still be in the net. In other words they would be splitting hairs and IMO making a judgment that would be tight at best. They would get killed if they reviewed this later and Kentucky had made a big basket later. That is an easy decision sitting here at a computer screen or on a couch to make such a decision IMO. But hey, what do I know, just giving an opinion that means nothing in the end right?

Peace

I agree with Jrut. I froze/play/froze play the video and I thought that the ball was touching the net with .6, .5, and .4 seconds. When the ball was no longer in contact with the net, it read .3. I am actually surprised at how accurately they stopped the clock at .3. Probably 100 other clock operators would have stopped it at .2 or less.

Originally Posted by bucky

I am actually surprised at how accurately they stopped the clock at .3. Probably 100 other clock operators would have stopped it at .2 or less.

I think the clock guy got lucky.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

UNC v Kentucky
14:30 in the 2nd half.
UNC player at the top of the key.
Did he travel or was the ball knocked out by the defender?

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

9:00 exactly left in second half of UNC v Kentucky.
Lead correctly calls goaltending. I was surprised that the call didn't come from the C, but he may have had a whistle too. Hard to see as he was almost out of the frame.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Fuelrider

About 3 seconds left in the first half, the last drive to the bucket by Kentucky.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Peace

In this one, I'm OK with BI. The ball was still in the cylinder when he touched it so they had that option.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bucky

I agree with Jrut. I froze/play/froze play the video and I thought that the ball was touching the net with .6, .5, and .4 seconds. When the ball was no longer in contact with the net, it read .3. I am actually surprised at how accurately they stopped the clock at .3. Probably 100 other clock operators would have stopped it at .2 or less.

While it was touching the bottom of the net, it was outside of it with the net laying on top of it. That is all that is required. It was entirely through by 0.5.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Peace

Should have been a foul. The defender was way beyond vertical...his hands were even far enough out to actually make contact with the back of the shooter's head and also made contact with the shooter's arms while in that position.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

While it was touching the bottom of the net, it was outside of it with the net laying on top of it. That is all that is required. It was entirely through by 0.5.

I did not see anything that suggests the ball was completely through at .5. Maybe .4 at best, but the video is inconclusive. I think they got it right based on the angles we have and have shown. I think that is a stretch and would take detailed examining to determine either way. I am good with what they did.

Peace

[ChuckS]

SC/FL, 2nd half, 7:55, looks like illegal screen (feet too wide), typically not called?

SC/FL, 2nd half, 4:50, Throw-In Violation (Very close, nit-picky, I guess you don't want to be "That guy")

UK/UNC, 2nd half, 1:22, definitely looked like a travel

[nolanjj68]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Should have been a foul. The defender was way beyond vertical...his hands were even far enough out to actually make contact with the of the shooter's head and made contact with the shooter's arms while in that position.

I agree. I think both defenders got him.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by OKREF

Yes, ends dribble with right foot on floor, picks it up and puts it down before shooting or passing

We'll have to agree to disagree here. I'd hardly describe what he did with his right foot as "picking it up and putting it back down."

[ODog]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Should have been a foul. The defender was way beyond vertical...his hands were even far enough out to actually make contact with the of the shooter's head and made contact with the shooter's arms while in that position.

I'm no-calling that all day. Defender got caved in a little when shooter drove directly into his torso, naturally lowering his arms.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Peace

Ball does get knocked away by defender ... once it hits the floor. And yes, that does matter. Sure, Jackson would have recovered it, thus making it a travel (dribble started with pivot foot off the floor), but Monk saved him from that by poking the ball away. Good patient whistle in no-calling this.

The dropping of the ball is nothing. It's what happens next.