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Old Sun Mar 26, 2017, 02:44pm
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I don't do it, but it *should* be the mechanic. NCAAW has it right, IMO.
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Old Sun Mar 26, 2017, 03:12pm
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I don't do it, but it *should* be the mechanic. NCAAW has it right, IMO.
Agreed. I think NCAA-W has a lot of things right. This mechanic, bouncing across the lane on backcourt throw-ins, two-hand reporting, walk-and-talk, no chop by the administering official...all preferred by me in comparison to NFHS.
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Old Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:00pm
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no chop by the administering official
I'm not sure what that one is.

I'd add: C has last-second shot.

I'm ambivalent on table-side vs. opposite.
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Old Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:32pm
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I'm not sure what that one is.

I'd add: C has last-second shot.

I'm ambivalent on table-side vs. opposite.
Official administering the throw-in doesn't chop with the non-counting arm, is what I was referring to.

I guess another one would be no long switches, but in SC we don't really long switch for high school games, anyway, despite what the NFHS manual says.
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Old Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:01pm
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Agreed. I think NCAA-W has a lot of things right. This mechanic, bouncing across the lane on backcourt throw-ins, two-hand reporting, walk-and-talk, no chop by the administering official...all preferred by me in comparison to NFHS.
The only NCAAW mechanic I don't like is looking out of the post to cover the corner. Might fit in the NBA / NCAAW, but doesn't work as well in my HS boys games.
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Old Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:03pm
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The only NCAAW mechanic I don't like is looking out of the post to cover the corner. Might fit in the NBA / NCAAW, but doesn't work as well in my HS boys games.
I hear you. It's a hard habit to break too, and I just don't see the advantage in doing it. Like someone else posted, I really like a lot of the other approved mechanics in women's, but this one I could do without.
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Old Tue Mar 28, 2017, 08:25am
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The only NCAAW mechanic I don't like is looking out of the post to cover the corner. Might fit in the NBA / NCAAW, but doesn't work as well in my HS boys games.
Down here, we have adopted Women's floor coverage for about 15 years. The L getting out to the corner isn't that big of an issue (unless you are working with a Men's official) but getting the T engaged into the post is fruitless. That call is still being made by the L peripherally or by C expansion.

When discussing this, every T "claims" that they are engaged in post play but not many off ball calls are being made out of that position with regards to post play.
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Agreed. I think NCAA-W has a lot of things right. This mechanic, bouncing across the lane on backcourt throw-ins, two-hand reporting, walk-and-talk, no chop by the administering official...all preferred by me in comparison to NFHS.
Bouncing across the lane looks very lazy to me. And I am so glad we do not do many of those things in Men's basketball. I would not want them in HS either, but that is me. Too much issues with mechanics that really do not do anything to help us officiate IMO. If they did, I might have a different opinion.

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Old Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:03pm
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I don't do it, but it *should* be the mechanic. NCAAW has it right, IMO.

I disagree - at the high school level, there are enough violations that happen where widening your view seems to make sense.
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I disagree - at the high school level, there are enough violations that happen where widening your view seems to make sense.


On a first of two (or three) shots?
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This observation is based on officials doing high school level and below:

Officials who stand in that vacated lower lane space during the first of two free throws inevitably follow the flight of the ball to and though the rim.

That habit then far too often carries over to the second free throw even when the official stands in the proper space, much to the detriment of proper observance of those lane space players for whom he's responsible.

This, not merely anecdotal, but based on video evidence.

The NFHS mechanic serves high school level and below best.

Just do it. Just train others to do it.
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