Originally Posted by bucky (Post 1002981)

Not saying you are wrong however....

When the ball handler crosses the 3-pt line (pause vid at :08), do you feel that the defender is in LGP? At the same time, do you feel that the defender is still a secondary defender?

IMO, the defender established LGP well before the contact and at contact was considered to be a primary defender. (for outnumbering fast-breaks, defensive players are secondary defenders initially). I know why they called this a block however I feel it should have been PC.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1002779)

CBS
Wisconsin v Villanova
2nd half 36.4 seconds left
This is a team control foul!!!
Hope the crew gets this right.
Nope, they blew it and awarded FTs. A critical mistake.

Originally Posted by jTheUmp (Post 1002782)

I was just watching that myself... I thought they were discussing if it would be a FF1 or not. The WI player reached out and grabbed the Villanova player and there was no possible way for him to "play the ball" as they say. I would've strongly considered calling an intentional foul under FED rules.

Originally Posted by The_Rookie (Post 1002851)

Coverage on the missed BI play....Is the The Trail's call who was table side or the Center who was opposite table? Would this miss likely end this crew's run?

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1002892)

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 1002999)

To me, a hand through the basket is best seen by the Lead.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 1002997)

A pet peeve of mine. I always go to my partners when they have whistles on this type of play. Unfortunately they aren't always willing to take the time to reprocess the play in their head and we end up shooting free throws. :mad:

Originally Posted by frezer11 (Post 1003006)

I also do this, and often also end up not changing their minds. I do think it is possible on this type of play to gain control if there is a clear push of the ball rather than a traditional tip, though that isn't the case here.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1003008)

Be careful. Per the rules book control is gained only by holding or dribbling the ball. A bat or push of the ball may begin a dribble, but may not meet the standard for establishing control.
In such cases, the officials probably need to ask themselves, "Did the player dribble the ball?"

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1002893)

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Originally Posted by dahoopref (Post 1003013)

Any chance of re-posting this? It isn't playing on YT, thanks.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 1002998)

I believe that was the discussion.

Originally Posted by jTheUmp (Post 1003016)

I don't remember exactly... but on the broadcast it was brought up... something like "we're waiting to get an explanation" and then someone (not sure if it was one of the game officials, the alternate, or someone involved with the monitor) said something to the effect of "trying to determine if team control had changed or not, and they determined that it had". Nothing was mentioned about a possible FF1.