NCAA Men's Tournament Officials (2017)

[Adam]

Originally Posted by SD Referee

I think if you take notice, you will see that a LOT of the guys doing the big games like to be noticed. Very dramatic signals, double & triple tweets of the whistle, calling a charge from the lead like you just got shot.

Those guys LOVE to be noticed. It's funny because the game isn't about them, but they think it is. When you start out officiating, you are told that if you aren't noticed it was a good game. Apparently as you rise up the ranks you try to be noticed as much as possible.

I've never been told this by anyone worth listening to. Most games it works, but there are some games where the right call will mean you're going to get noticed. Guys who don't want to be noticed tend to shy away from the calls that need made at the time they most need to be made.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Adam

I've never been told this by anyone worth listening to. Most games it works, but there are some games where the right call will mean you're going to get noticed. Guys who don't want to be noticed tend to shy away from the calls that need made at the time they most need to be made.

I worded that poorly.

I meant to blend in and be part of the crew. Consistent calls. Proper mechanics. No over the top mechanics and theatrics. That is a good night. I don't equate not wanting to be noticed for the wrong reason with shying away from anything. I've had a lot of big games and big calls and I've never disappeared in a game. I would take a nut cruncher of a game EVERY night.

[deecee]

This is funny about all the "what we should do" and "what the game is about" by a bunch of guys talking about reaching a level where these officials work, yet not willing to accept that they (you, and I) need to adjust our mentality rather than the "we would do it this way".

Hey they are working the games "we want" so lets just say what they do is working? More than what you or I do is. And then there is the luck factor. They have more of "it". That's life.

[CallemUp]

While I do agree that most "big time" college referees love to be seen, I also think there are a few great officials that never default to the over the top histrionics that sometimes just annoy the fans. Mike Eades, Jamie Luckie, Darron George, Keith Kimble are a few. They quietly and professionally go about calling a game without the showtime calls. Interestingly, these don't seem to get called out that often by the media, fans or even coaches. I wonder if there's a correlation.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CallemUp

While I do agree that most "big time" college referees love to be seen, I also think there are a few great officials that never default to the over the top histrionics that sometimes just annoy the fans. Mike Eades, Jamie Luckie, Darron George, Keith Kimble are a few. They quietly and professionally go about calling a game without the showtime calls. Interestingly, these don't seem to get called out that often by the media, fans or even coaches. I wonder if there's a correlation.

I am not going to specifically point out the specific official you referenced. But I can tell you that one of these guys was accused by a commentator on ESPN (notorious for saying bad things about officials) that he always found a way to interject himself into a contest. And it was when some non-players were interfering with the court area and stopped the game to address this issue. So this again proves that if the right people are paying attention, there is someone that claims you do things the wrong way. Which is also an example of why you cannot listen to this silly standard of "We might get noticed, so do not do....."

I'm only posting this to show that not everyone is a fan of the people we think are held in a certain esteem. I have nothing against the official or the way he handled this situation. For all we know they were told to deal with this situation that was becoming a problem.



Peace

[SC Official]

"The best officials go unnoticed."

Just add it to the list of hackneyed camp speak that is often false.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SC Official

"The best officials go unnoticed."

Just add it to the list of hackneyed camp speak that is often false.

Often times the clinicians at some major camps are the guy people here do not think "Want to be seen." So that might be a high school thing in some circles, but I cannot recall ever being told this during a college camp. But then again if it had, it was a very long time ago.

Peace

[Adam]

I'm guessing it was originally used to convey a valid point, but that point was misunderstood and/or passed along. The lessons learned from the old game of telephone apply, and are magnified because it's something that gets passed along by people who didn't understand the original point.

The valid points?

Don't be a pioneer.
Don't grab the crap end of the stick.

[JRutledge]

Bullshit???

Shit???

Do I have to be an administrator use that language?

Peace

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by Adam

I'm guessing it was originally used to convey a valid point, but that point was misunderstood and/or passed along. The lessons learned from the old game of telephone apply, and are magnified because it's something that gets passed along by people who didn't understand the original point.

The valid points?

Don't be a pioneer.
Don't grab the crap end of the stick.

Isn't that true of so much good advice? Those who don't understand it re-frame it and turn it into nonsense.