ACC Tournament Plays (Video and requests)

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bucky

About 4:50 in first half of Duke/Clemson game. Technical on Grayson Allen. I did not agree with it for his actions. Maybe something verbal although official next to him did not turn/look at all. T official was watching him entire time and called it. At half time, Jason Williams defended Allen and began discussion swearing in basketball and that it happens all the time. So, maybe Allen swore but again, closest official (4 feet?) did not even flinch.

The official who made the call wasn't paying attention to Grayson's actions, he had no idea Allen slammed the ball. The calling official was walking towards the table to report and Allen was moving the opposite direction. The Trail T'd Allen immediately upon slamming the ball. Allen lost all benefit of the doubt a long time ago. You reap what you sow.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

The official who made the call wasn't paying attention to Grayson's actions, he had no idea Allen slammed the ball. The calling official was walking towards the table to report and Allen was moving the opposite direction. The Trail T'd Allen immediately upon slamming the ball. Allen lost all benefit of the doubt a long time ago. You reap what you sow.

Like I tell guys in the trenches during a football game (as the Umpire)... Don't make me have to make a decision, because you might not like the decision I make.

[JRutledge]

Play #4:



Peace

[grunewar]

Check out Wake Forest's, Greg McClinton's three pointer on a baseball pass as time expires in the first half. Nothing but net.

They said it's the only three pointer he's EVER made in college! Clearly gone.....

[RedAndWhiteRef]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Check out Wake Forest's, Greg McClinton's three pointer on a baseball pass as time expires in the first half. Nothing but net.

They said it's the only three pointer he's EVER made in college! Clearly gone.....

Terrible defense by the Hokies. They left him wide open.

[RedAndWhiteRef]

UVa-Pitt 10:24 2H. UVa defender is straight up, Pitt player turns into him and foul is called on UVa

[MechanicGuy]

If Play #1, in the OP, is a travel, then college teams would score approximately 15 points a night.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by RedAndWhiteRef

UVa-Pitt 10:24 2H. UVa defender is straight up, Pitt player turns into him and foul is called on UVa

Play #4



Peace

[bucky]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Check out Wake Forest's, Greg McClinton's three pointer on a baseball pass as time expires in the first half. Nothing but net.

They said it's the only three pointer he's EVER made in college! Clearly gone.....

If it was a pass as time expires, then wouldn't the ball become dead immediately?

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bucky

If it was a pass as time expires, then wouldn't the ball become dead immediately?

What does the rule say?

Actually, who cares? If a player throws the ball one handed in the direction of the basket as time's expiring, tell me one official who would consider it anything but a try?

[john5396]

Originally Posted by Rich

What does the rule say?

Actually, who cares? If a player throws the ball one handed in the direction of the basket as time's expiring, tell me one official who would consider it anything but a try?

It was clearly a pass to the VT player who inbounded the ball.

Wait, I'm a baseball umpire and don't work basketball. Oh, and Im a VT grad. No, not a fan boy hear. Move along nothing to see. ;^)

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Rich

What does the rule say?

Actually, who cares? If a player throws the ball one handed in the direction of the basket as time's expiring, tell me one official who would consider it anything but a try?

Exactly. Not to mention the closest teammate to where he threw the ball was over 50 feet away. I'd say that was NOT a pass by any stretch of the imagination.

[bucky]

Originally Posted by Rich

What does the rule say?

Actually, who cares? If a player throws the ball one handed in the direction of the basket as time's expiring, tell me one official who would consider it anything but a try?

Answering a question with a question. Nice. Don't you know the rule Rich?

Presuming grunewar is an official, that would be one. grunewar said it was a pass. Did you not read the post, lol? Maybe we should review the 2-point vs 3-point deflected pass thread. There will be some officials there that consider the ball being thrown in the direction of the basket anything but a try, lol.

[Amesman]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

T The Trail T'd Allen immediately upon slamming the ball. Allen lost all benefit of the doubt a long time ago. You reap what you sow.

BNR, agree with everything you said, including most of the above, EXCEPT the T didn't hit the whistle or react until he saw the ball bounding away. Seems Grayson basically got T'ed because he didn't catch his own bounce/slam of the ball. Valid. (Doubtful if T would have heard any muttered swearing from that far away? But if he did, that is indeed another explanation. Just seems unlikely in that noisy setting. And even then, it seems he might be getting on himself. ... OK maybe THAT one is a stretch.)