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Post #72 https://forum.officiating.com/basket...ml#post1001543 After U99's post came out that described, in detail, the entire incident, we became aware that the only issue was if a player had actually requested a timeout. The only reason that I have continued to post on this rule is in response to JRutledge's posts regarding this rule. Post #99 https://forum.officiating.com/basket...ml#post1001626 Quote:
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Bottom line, this was a good opportunity to remind Forum members, including officials, coaches, players, and fans, what the "inform" rule actual requires officials to do under such circumstances: The scorer shall: Record the time-out information charged to each team (who and when) and notify a team and its coach, through an official, whenever that team is granted its final allotted charged time-out. As well as: The scorer shall: Signal the nearer official each time a team is granted a time-out in excess of the allotted number. On the other hand, I couldn't let this incomplete interpretation (below) of the rule stand without mentioning rest of the rule: Quote:
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Again I couldn't care less or care less either way. If the teams do not know their timeout situation like other book situations, shame on them. Timeouts they call and verify after every granted is one them. Because if something is wrong, then they better figure that out before they are listed as out. So this entire rule that seems to be the focus is irrelevant. Just like it is irrelevant if the scorers sits together during the game and that rarely happens. It might help things if they do, but when they don't I am not going to go crazy if they don't.
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Rich Corinthian Leather ...
Sorry, it's at the cleaners.
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Nah, it is so it will coordinate with his Byron collar.
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Why should it be locked? People like to have a little fun. As long as it doesn't go to far, it is usually tolerated.
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No they did not. In fact they said they could see him calling a timeout from where they were sitting. They said if we ignored that, we would not (1) be continuing on in the state tournament (2) be nominated for playoffs next year. They also said that if this play is good enough to be called in a division one National Final, then it is good enough to be called in a high school game. This was not a one time verbal request that we had to verify. It was visual AND verbal, multiple times, with a player making eye contact and moving toward an official. I find it interesting that every news report (SD UT, SB Nation, USA Today, NBC 7, ESPN, SD Informer) has blamed the player. Not one word had been printed or reported about the official being wrong. The only ones saying the crew should have ignored it are referees, only a very few at that, and I wonder about their experience level and play calling abilities. AND none of those officials were in the gym, let alone the game.
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What about the coach? If *two* players are signalling TO, it sounds to me like the coach utterly failed in communicating with his players on what they were supposed to do.
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Sure. But would he mirror the teammate if he knew that the teammate had just f%^$%ed up and was going to cost the team the game? No. He would only mirror if he thought the TO was what they wanted. To me, that is pretty strong evidence that the coach failed in communicating to the players on the court that they had no time outs and had to get the rebound and heave it (or, on a make, throw a pass to someone who could shoot quickly). If the coach had class (and no, nothing in the video gives us reason to think that . . .), his post game comment would be to apologize to the team for not doing a better job of making sure all the players understood the situation and to take responsibility for what happened and take it off the kid.
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