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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 10:33am
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By rule, you may not do this.
That's a good reason to always be patient on signals in gray areas. Whenever I work with new partners, the R usually brings up to make sure we have eye contact on double whistles so we don't have blarges. Double whistles shouldn't happen, but sometimes it does and you've just got to be good communicators.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 10:48am
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That's a good reason to always be patient on signals in gray areas. Whenever I work with new partners, the R usually brings up to make sure we have eye contact on double whistles so we don't have blarges. Double whistles shouldn't happen, but sometimes it does and you've just got to be good communicators.
as many stated already...
NFHS Case Book 4.19.8 Situation C
many argue that you have to get together and decide, but you must by rule go with the double personal foul.

on your note...i look at it differently. there is nothing wrong with double whistles. they happen and will always happen. but there is A LOT wrong with double preliminary signals. but you are right. pregame it and JUST BE PATIENT. slow down and post. pass it off to the PCA official or claim it and be strong.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:11am
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So let's talk about administration after the fact. Notice the bucket was good off the shot as well (but not released before the call). Report both fouls, count the bucket for 2 for IU but no FT?, ball goes to Purdue at POI? or is it report both fouls, no bucket (not released), go to team in possession at POI?

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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:35am
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The C had the best look and made the right call. Full stop.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:46am
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by rule you have a double foul. It's very clear and is only really applicable if both parties have a preliminary. The L should have had second crack as this was the C's call the whole way.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:56am
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Should they have counted the basket? In NF, you count the basket if successful on a blarge. Not sure of the NCAAM rule-set.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 11:58am
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Sigh....the BTN says they were both ejected after the play because of their 5th foul. I wish the Network could get the terminology right. Ejection vs DQ are two different things...

Swanigan, Bryant Ejected After Double Foul - BTN
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 12:04pm
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Should they have counted the basket? In NF, you count the basket if successful on a blarge. Not sure of the NCAAM rule-set.
Wait. You cannot score a basket with an offensive foul by the shooter under either NFHS or NCAA-M rules, even if the ball has been released before contact. Why would this change if a double foul is ruled? The offensive part of the double foul negates any basket that could be made.

The key is what the POI is....if the ball has been released then you go to the arrow because no team control. If the ball has not be released then you give the ball OOB to the team who had it in possession, in this case Indiana.
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