Purdue - IU Blarge

[RefsNCoaches]

Anybody see this game last night?

In particular this play the ruled a double foul and both bigs for each team picked up their 5th PF.

I don't officiate NCAA but I am curious what the forum thinks of the play. What do you have and also, how can they rule double foul here? Is it because L called block and C had player control? Is there something in the rule book that allows that....

Bryant and Swanigan foul out on double foul - ESPN Video

Sorry - I don't know how to put the video in the post other than linking it.

[BlueDevilRef]

NFHS and NCAA men's rule this as a double foul bc of opposing calls by two officials. In NCAA women's, can conference to attempt to get correct call.

IMO, women's game has the correct thinking. To me, it is 100% impossible to have a block and a PC. One happened and one didn't. We should have ability by rule to try to get it right.

[bob jenkins]

Should have been a charge. Double is right by rule given what the officials did.

[RefsNCoaches]

I too felt it was player control foul...I didn't watch every minute of the game but I guess these guys had a rough night. Missed Haas from PU raking one of IUs bigs that left him on the floor and they went to the other end and played 14 seconds before a whistle. There was also a ball in the cylinder that got swatted back out top that probably should have been GT or BI.

Someone also pointed out in the Minnesota game from Weds a kid stepped clearly OOB and the official on the baseline (don't know if he was L or they were transitioning to T) missed it.

Rough week for B1G officiating crews...but hey, those guys are there for a reason.

[ballgame99]

The lead official never signals does he? Why break into jail here and cause all this indecision? C banged the PC right away, just let him take it! I had it as a PC all the way BTW. Edit to add; yes he did, he gave the one arm block signal, which I have to say is new to me.

Who's call should this be? Shouldn't the C wait on this? For NFHS can one of us "pick up our flag" and defer to the other?

[UNIgiantslayers]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

The lead official never signals does he? Why break into jail here and cause all this indecision? C banged the PC right away, just let him take it! I had it as a PC all the way BTW. Edit to add; yes he did, he gave the one arm block signal, which I have to say is new to me.

Who's call should this be? Shouldn't the C wait on this?

He's got one hand up, and the other indicating a block. It's an odd mechanic.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

For NFHS can one of us "pick up our flag" and defer to the other?

Yes, one can, and should, in my opinion. Most disagree. Consult your local listings.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ballgame99

Who's call should this be? Shouldn't the C wait on this? For NFHS can one of us "pick up our flag" and defer to the other?

No, you cannot pick one over the other. Sorry, but that poster that keeps telling everyone you can, does not seem to recognize that every single time this is brought up, this is the standard in the current book and I have never heard anyone from the NF contradict this position. Unfortunately at this moment, you cannot choose once you signal. This is why you do not signal at all in a double whistle situation in a hurry.

4.19.8. Situation C:

A1 drives for a try and jumps and releases the ball. Contact occurs between A1 and B1 after the release and before airborne shooter A1 returns on foot to the floor. One officials rules a blocking foul on B1 and the other official rules a charging foul on A1. The try is is (a) successful or (b) not successful.

Ruling: Even thought airborne shooter A1 committed a charging foul, it is not a player control foul because the two fouls result in a double personal foul. The double foul does not cause the ball to become dead on the try. In (a), the goal is scored; play is resumed at the point of interruption, which is a throw-in for Team B from anywhere along the end line. In (b), the point of interruption is a try in flight; therefore the alternating-possession procedure is used (4-36)

Peace