UNC Pitt Video Request - Last Second Foul - Shooting?

[Dale3]

7 seconds to go in the game. UNC is fouling Pitt on purpose to avoid the 3 point shot. Pitt knows this is coming and Pitt player seems to start his shooting motion (albeit from half court) before the foul.

Would anyone have a shooting foul on this?

Watching live I agreed with the official, but this started a big debate with my roommate.

Thanks.

[crosscountry55]

Saw a poor quality video from ESPN with the shooter blocking out a good look at what the defender did. I think the shot probably got off cleanly. But *IF* there is contact there, it *HAS* to be called. That said, L was out wide to have a second opinion, so if two officials passed on this, it was probably a good no call.

Two, maybe three years ago in a 7-10 men's tournament game involving Iowa State (close game, down to the wire), a foul on a three from the corner at the buzzer was not called. Should have been. I think as officials, in an effort to be 100% certain on game impacting calls, we sometimes choke. Being human is hard!

[so cal lurker]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

I think as officials, in an effort to be 100% certain on game impacting calls, we sometimes choke. Being human is hard!

I think as officials we can lose sight that a non-call affects the game just as much as a call. (Though I believe that there are studies that show people feel more aggrieved by a bad call than a bad no-call.)

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Dale3

7 seconds to go in the game. UNC is fouling Pitt on purpose to avoid the 3 point shot. Pitt knows this is coming and Pitt player seems to start his shooting motion (albeit from half court) before the foul.

Would anyone have a shooting foul on this?

Watching live I agreed with the official, but this started a big debate with my roommate.

Thanks.

I saw the last shot.

It's (1) nowhere near half court and (2) not even close to being a foul. In the (admittedly) bad quality pic below, the ball is already well gone.

Maybe one of our video experts can put it up here.

[Dale3]

Originally Posted by Rich

This is the last shot.



It's (1) nowhere near half court and (2) not even close to being a foul.

I am not talking about the last shot. UNC fouls on purpose with somewhere between 9-7 seconds left in the game. Pitt knows that UNC is going to foul so as Pitt is getting fouled he chucks up a prayer hoping that the ref will award 3 free throws instead of 1-1.

My question was if anyone would actually rule this a shooting foul? Still looking for video of the play.

[JRutledge]

Here are the two plays:



Peace

[Rich]

No, that's not really close, announcer. That's not really close.

[CecilOne]

Play 1 - foul before "act of shooting"

Play 2 - no block foul on the shot, but was there a moving screen foul on the original guarder

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Play 2 - no block foul on the shot, but was there a moving screen foul on the original guarder

No.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Play 1 - foul before "act of shooting"

Play 2 - no block foul on the shot, but was there a moving screen foul on the original guarder

Oh God no!!!!

Peace

[Hawkeyes]

Doesn't matter if he got fouled; he traveled twice and may have carried it near mid-court.

[crosscountry55]

Game awareness and probability. That guy isn't making that shot with five whole seconds left; his coach would kill him.

Halfway decent acting job, but wasn't fooling anyone in stripes.

[Rich]

It's obvious why some people post here and others work these games.

Play 1: Shooting foul, 3 shots

Play 2: Nothing

[BigCat]

1. He's fouled and then offense throws his arms up. No shot. Good try but not good enough.

2. Nothing to talk about.