Duke @ Notre Dame Plays (Video)

[Rich]

Is "whistle timing" new camp-speak?

Missed that one.

He's visible in the frame waving off the shot as the player finishes.

And 2 hands is an automatic - we don't pass on it just cause it has no effect on the play.

[Bob Bball]

Two hands is an "automatic"!

I just do not like this statement and philosophy. Contact happens in basketball: and, officials should judge what the contact does. if it alters what player is attempting to do make a call! If it does not play on!

In the open court above the foul line you can make a case for a hand check with this "limited contact"?

But, with offence closing on the defence, and the defence retreating below the foul line, the contact not changing what the offence was doing- leave it alone, make him a shooter!

The game is more fun when we let the athletes be athletes, and, do not get in their way because something is "automatic"

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Bob Bball

Two hands is an "automatic"!

I just do not like this statement and philosophy. Contact happens in basketball: and, officials should judge what the contact does. if it alters what player is attempting to do make a call! If it does not play on!

In the open court above the foul line you can make a case for a hand check with this "limited contact"?

But, with offence closing on the defence, and the defence retreating below the foul line, the contact not changing what the offence was doing- leave it alone, make him a shooter!

The game is more fun when we let the athletes be athletes, and, do not get in their way because something is "automatic"

Time warp. They tried your way. Gave us the Knicks. Ugly basketball. Fact is automatics are needed because referees can't tell what contact affects offense and what doesn't. U put your hand on my hip, i assure you it is bothering me. But, I'm not going to flop around and exaggerate it. No one in the gym will know but me.

There's no legitimate reason for a kid's hand to be on a dribbler....it's done to slow them or bother them.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Bob Bball

Two hands is an "automatic"!

I just do not like this statement and philosophy. Contact happens in basketball: and, officials should judge what the contact does. if it alters what player is attempting to do make a call! If it does not play on!

In the open court above the foul line you can make a case for a hand check with this "limited contact"?

But, with offence closing on the defence, and the defence retreating below the foul line, the contact not changing what the offence was doing- leave it alone, make him a shooter!

The game is more fun when we let the athletes be athletes, and, do not get in their way because something is "automatic"

Well here is the rule.

10-1-4:

Art. 4. The following acts constitute a foul when committed against a player
with the ball:
a. Keeping a hand or forearm on an opponent;
b. Putting two hands on an opponent.
c. Continually jabbing an opponent by extending an arm(s) and placing a
hand or forearm on the opponent;
d. Using an arm bar to impede the progress of a dribbler.

Peace

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Bob Bball

Two hands is an "automatic"!

Yes. Along with extended arm-bar, one hand that stays on (other than a "hot stove" touch), alternate hands, the same hand more than once. By rule. The "tower philosophy" does NOT apply to these plays.

I just do not like this statement and philosophy. Contact happens in basketball: and, officials should judge what the contact does. if it alters what player is attempting to do make a call! If it does not play on!

In the open court above the foul line you can make a case for a hand check with this "limited contact"?

But, with offence closing on the defence, and the defence retreating below the foul line, the contact not changing what the offence was doing- leave it alone, make him a shooter!

The game is more fun when we let the athletes be athletes, and, do not get in their way because something is "automatic"

Thank you for being a fan of college basketball.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

Is "whistle timing" new camp-speak?

Missed that one.

He's visible in the frame waving off the shot as the player finishes.

And 2 hands is an automatic - we don't pass on it just cause it has no effect on the play.

"Immediate whistles on the perimeter shots, patient whistles on drives to the basket" as a general guideline.

I would venture to say this official reviewed the video and wishes he would have counted this basket. Yes, he waved it off immediately upon blowing the whistle, but that contact occurred as part of the shooting motion.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

"Immediate whistles on the perimeter shots, patient whistles on drives to the basket" as a general guideline.

I would venture to say this official reviewed the video and wishes he would have counted this basket. Yes, he waved it off immediately upon blowing the whistle, but that contact occurred as part of the shooting motion.

I thought that originally but if you look at the first 8 seconds I think u can see he was calling foul before any shooting motion. I think he called a foul when he saw it.