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And on 3, I wasn't clear what I meant, I understand that is T's call, but in this particular case the T was at a bad angle and was pretty deep, and he probably guessed there was a push, so he should just hold off on that call. |
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On play #2.........If you slow it down you can see it is a 10-1-4 foul before the ball is gathered. Yes, I had to slow it down to see that and typically if you have to slow it down either call is supported at live game speed. The player has his right forearm on the players side and left hand on his shoulder as he turns the corner. The official had a patient whistle but he also needs time to process it. IMO either call was supported when the observer broke down the play.
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Seriously? You're going to critique a D1 official by assuming that he guessed and based on that conclude that he should have held off? There's no question there was a push there -- the only question is whether it should have been called. I'm never a fan of isolating a single play like this on that type of contact. We expect players to adjust to the game that is being called by the officials that day -- but then we critique a call out of context of the other calls in the game. In a vaccum, I'm inclined to think it should be called, BUT in my mind it is certainly gray enough that the context of the game such that the level of contact being permitted throughout determines if it was (A) a clear call that had to be made, (B) a 50-50 call that could go either way, or (C) a "gotcha" call that came out of nowhere. (And I haven't seen any of the game other than the three clips, so I have no way to pick one of the categories.)
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(In soccer, if we were waiting we would call the more serious offense -- the later foul on the shot. But this ain't soccer . . . ) |
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Lots of coaches are faster than me when identifying travels or fouls, but I have to actually be right -- and that means that all plays deserve that extra processing time. |
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On 3 right or wrong if he doesn't have his hands on his back he doesn't get called for the foul. He put the official into a bad spot. |
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It's not that he's seeing the contact, processing it, deciding it's a foul, and then waiting some more... It's that he's waiting until he's processed what he has seen, and then calling it.
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"Watching, watching, 2 hands, that's a foul, WHISTLE." It wasn't that long. |
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My mistake I will give back my 7 games I have yet this week. |
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It wasn't that quick either for a pretty simple call. Whistle at the moment of release makes it look bad. Although IMO he was correct that the original foul was before shooting motion began.
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Sorry... you said you were asking an honest question. I believed you.
The only reason I said, "if you are an official" is that I don't know you and you might not have been one - a coach or fan could have asked that question. That said ... since you've been on the court, I'm not following why you didn't understand what Rich was saying.
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These officials are big boys in a big league. hey did not get here without making mistakes and learning from them.
I would think once they sat down talked , saw the video, they would admit that the calls were suspect at best, and survive through a learning situation. One of the good things about officiating, you learn in every game! |
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I never want to have 7 games in week.
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