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Adam Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:37am
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 997807)
The first horn announcement, in my opinion, is among the stupidest things we do. If they didn't hear/ignored the horn itself, how likely are they to hear/respond to the call and whistle from the official? I'm not gonna stick my head in the huddle and beg. We should put the ball on the floor more often than we do.
I'd agree with you if it weren't for the absolute success of the process here. It wasn't my idea, and I don't disagree that it shouldn't be necessary, but getting teams out of a huddle is rarely an issue now. And when it is, there's never any complaining when the ball gets put down. They knew it was coming, and usually I hear a fan behind me, "He's counting!"

so cal lurker Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 997849)
I'd agree with you if it weren't for the absolute success of the process here. It wasn't my idea, and I don't disagree that it shouldn't be necessary, but getting teams out of a huddle is rarely an issue now. And when it is, there's never any complaining when the ball gets put down. They knew it was coming, and usually I hear a fan behind me, "He's counting!"
It's like anything -- if the coaches don't believe you'll use ROP or that you'll give it to the other team before they're ready, what do they have to lose by ignoring the horns? But once the coaches believe that ROP will actually be used, it becomes unnecessary as they don't want to take a chance.

Has anyone seen a designed ROP play? I could see a coach putting together a plan in the expectation that the other team wouldn't really be ready for an orchestrated act rather than a panic driven throw in . . .

Rich Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:29pm
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Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers (Post 997844)
I know this may not help a lot, but during the captain/coaches meeting, I tell the kids our state association is focused on sportsmanship, helping each other up, etc. Then I get them out of there. I tell the coaches to stay. We're required to ask coaches if all players are legally equipped, and then I make it a point to tell them first horn ENDS the timeout, we're ready to play on the second horn so make sure they're out there. My hope is that if that's the only thing that I say, it sticks with them. Not sure how much it helps, or if at all (probably not), but I've not had a DOG for coming out of a timeout yet. I've also not been doing this as long as many of you, so I'm sure that plays a huge factor in that as well.
The first horn does not end the timeout.

Being ready to play on the second horn is not the same thing.

just another ref Thu Jan 19, 2017 12:54pm
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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 997849)
It wasn't my idea, and I don't disagree that it shouldn't be necessary, but getting teams out of a huddle is rarely an issue now. And when it is, there's never any complaining when the ball gets put down.
Only discussion I had about it this year: The defense was the one late getting out so the other team scored an unmolested layup. The coach is a former official and a friend of mine. He called me over at the end of the quarter.

"You know, coming out of the timeout, somebody is supposed to come to the huddle and notify us."

"Which we did."

(pause) "Oh, I guess I was talking."

"Yep"

"Oh, okay" (sheepish look)

BlueDevilRef Thu Jan 19, 2017 01:12pm
There is an article about this very topic in the current issue of Referee Magazine. Good read

Raymond Thu Jan 19, 2017 03:46pm
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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 997843)
Did someone go pick up the ball and then call timeout, or was the ball sitting on the floor?
Sitting on floor. Which means the ball was at their disposal.

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OKREF Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:38pm
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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 997892)
Sitting on floor. Which means the ball was at their disposal.

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correct

Mregor Mon Jan 23, 2017 06:20pm
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Originally Posted by gunz722 (Post 997779)
They would push it every time. Coming out well after the horn. I didn't have to place it at all, but the coach is notorious for taking way more time than allotted.


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So you let this behavior go on all game and then with 30 secs in close game you use ROP procedure. I have a problem with that. :mad:


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