Administrative Duties of Referee

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by deecee

the gist is check the book is ready by 10min mark. This means that all players are in the book and starters listed. In the case of visitors the visitors must have made their list available to the book, ideally I want this in the home book by 10 but here or there the visitor data may not be in the home book but it's been made available. Make sure starters are marked. I chat with the book(s), clock, and shot clock operator in an attempt to gauge their competency.

The rule only states that they must have the information submitted by 10 minutes. Nothing states that they must be actually in the book at all by that time. And this is often a problem as the person keeping the book is no where to be found after the game before in many cases. And we should not penalize teams because the home assigned person does not do their job in a timely manner.

Peace

[Nevadaref]

Rut is correct about the scorebook and team roster requirements.

Also why does he want the table to inform the crew when there are six fouls? Nothing different happens then. The crew needs to be told on seven and ten.

All the testing of the clocks and horns is massive overkill. If I had a partner do that before a game, I would assume that he has OCD and prepare for a long night.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Rut is correct about the scorebook and team roster requirements.

Also why does he want the table to inform the crew when there are six fouls? Nothing different happens then. The crew needs to be told on seven and ten.

All the testing of the clocks and horns is massive overkill. If I had a partner do that before a game, I would assume that he has OCD and prepare for a long night.

If you know on 6, then you get the shooter on 7.

Testing the shot clocks is SOP -- way too often (like 2 or 3 times per year) they don't work as expected when tested and this give them tome to be corrected before the game starts.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If you know on 6, then you get the shooter on 7.



Testing the shot clocks is SOP -- way too often (like 2 or 3 times per year) they don't work as expected when tested and this give them tome to be corrected before the game starts.

This. I've never known anyone who wants to wait till 7 to know. On 6 we're telling each other that the next one we're shooting.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Testing the shot clocks is SOP -- way too often (like 2 or 3 times per year) they don't work as expected when tested and this give them tome to be corrected before the game starts.

I've worked HS in CA for ten years now and never once tested a shot clock prior to a game. Never had an issue either.

Originally Posted by Rich

This. I've never known anyone who wants to wait till 7 to know. On 6 we're telling each other that the next one we're shooting.

Officials communicate to each other on six fouls for the reason you and Bob mention, but I've never heard of having the table crew inform the officials on six--just 7 & 10.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I've worked HS in CA for ten years now and never once tested a shot clock prior to a game. Never had an issue either.



Officials communicate to each other on six fouls for the reason you and Bob mention, but I've never heard of having the table crew inform the officials on six--just 7 & 10.

Granted it's not HS, but every single college game I've worked, the CC has had the shot clock operator run down the shot clock to 0. Helpful to see if there are accompanying lights/sound of the horn/decibel level of the horn, etc.

As far as the book...if there's a scoreboard where I know the clock guy will put up the foul count and is good about it, then I won't bother with the instruction. Otherwise, I want the book to tell me at 6...nothing worse than not knowing the bonus situation and having the crew about to put the ball in play...then the table going frantic telling you it's one and one....then having to guess/rely on the honor of the offended team that the correct shooter will go to the line.

[Nevadaref]

Ok, if you are in a gym in which the team foul count is not displayed, then I agree that having notification at six would be helpful. Of course, how many such gyms are there in your area? There are zero where I work.