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BryanV21 Tue Dec 06, 2016 09:51am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 994188)
Not by itself, but it can be a good indicator.

Why don't we just go by whether the defender hit the ball, hand, wrist, or arm? Why are we bringing physics, or some type of "cause and affect", into this?

Look at it this way... if a coach asks what his player (in this case, the defender) did wrong, are you going to say "the ball went up"? Of course not. So why use that as a basis for whether there was a foul or it was a clean block?

I guess I can see holding your whistle until you see where the ball goes, and then making the call/non-call. But since there's nothing in the rule book about such a thing, I don't believe it's a good thing to teach.

Raymond Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:10am

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 994228)
Why don't we just go by whether the defender hit the ball, hand, wrist, or arm? Why are we bringing physics, or some type of "cause and affect", into this?

Look at it this way... if a coach asks what his player (in this case, the defender) did wrong, are you going to say "the ball went up"? Of course not. So why use that as a basis for whether there was a foul or it was a clean block?

I guess I can see holding your whistle until you see where the ball goes, and then making the call/non-call. But since there's nothing in the rule book about such a thing, I don't believe it's a good thing to teach.

It's an indicator. Sometimes we are unsure, or it's 50/50. It is part of processing a play. The higher the level of play, the quicker the hands are.

Feel free to do what you wish, but some of us have used these tips to help improve our officiating and call accuracy. No one said you make a call based solely on where the ball goes. But if I'm reviewing video of my game, and the camera angle is such that I can't see the point of contact, I will use what the ball did to determine the accuracy of my call/no-call.

BryanV21 Tue Dec 06, 2016 10:22am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 994233)
It's an indicator. Sometimes we are unsure, or it's 50/50. It is part of processing a play. The higher the level of play, the quicker the hands are.

Feel free to do what you wish, but some of us have used these tips to help improve our officiating and call accuracy. No one said you make a call based solely on where the ball goes. But if I'm reviewing video of my game, and the camera angle is such that I can't see the point of contact, I will use what the ball did to determine the accuracy of my call/no-call.

It makes sense. I guess this makes me think of assuming, and I try not to assume anything in life.

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