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Old Thu Dec 01, 2016, 08:35pm
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This is one we deal with often in many cases.



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Old Thu Dec 01, 2016, 10:33pm
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With that being said I think this was more on the wrist than the hand and personally have a foul.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2016, 11:03pm
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Ball goes down, no foul. Ball goes up, foul. Ball went up.
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This is one we deal with often in many cases.



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Ball goes down, no foul. Ball goes up, foul. Ball went up.

Mark, Jr., and I were listening to this game on our way home from our game. And now we know that the officials got the call correct: FOUL!


AremRed:

Which direction the ball goes does not determine whether a foul was committed or not.

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Old Thu Dec 01, 2016, 11:28pm
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This is one we deal with often in many cases.



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I have a foul. Obvious on 2nd replay and indicated by how the ball released.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2016, 11:32pm
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I have a foul. Obvious on 2nd replay and indicated by how the ball released.
I have a foul as well.

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Old Thu Dec 01, 2016, 11:48pm
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Great get by the C!

On first viewing, I didn't see who whistled it and just assumed the straightlined L guessed in his PCA and got it right. Nope ... great job by both officials.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2016, 11:51pm
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Great get by the C!

On first viewing, I didn't see who whistled it and just assumed the straightlined L guessed in his PCA and got it right. Nope ... great job by both officials.
Agree. At first view, I didn't think there was much there. On replay, this is definitely a foul and the C is the best person to come and get it. He has the best angle and is in the best position to see the foul. Great get.
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Old Fri Dec 02, 2016, 08:45am
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Which direction the ball goes does not determine whether a foul was committed or not.
Of course that's not the rule, but it can be a help in determining what happened. Just like viewing what the shooter's arm(s) do(es) after some potential contact.
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Old Fri Dec 02, 2016, 02:55pm
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Of course that's not the rule, but it can be a help in determining what happened. Just like viewing what the shooter's arm(s) do(es) after some potential contact.
Agree. Clues and indicators are valuable when it comes to judgment. Especially in a patient secondary whistle situation such as this one.
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Old Mon Dec 05, 2016, 11:10am
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Ball goes down, no foul. Ball goes up, foul. Ball went up.
+1. Physics 101!
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No good look from the original camera angle... from the replay angle, definite foul, and a great get by C. Can totally understand why L got straight-lined on it.
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Old Mon Dec 05, 2016, 04:17pm
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Newton's 4th Law?

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+1. Physics 101!
Is that Newton's long lost 4th Law?

Generally agreed, but not absolutely.
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Old Mon Dec 05, 2016, 04:39pm
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AremRed:

Which direction the ball goes does not determine whether a foul was committed or not.
Not by itself, but it can be a good indicator.
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Old Mon Dec 05, 2016, 05:11pm
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Ball goes down, no foul. Ball goes up, foul. Ball went up.
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+1. Physics 101!
Most of the time.

When the ball goes up and the arm doesn't, it is almost certainly a reliable indicator of a foul. But, when the ball goes down, it may be either. Getting the ball doesn't mean the defender didn't get the arm first.
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