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Michigan State v FGCU end of game
Can one of our esteemed video gurus post the ending of Michigan State v FGCU? It looked like the clock was started early and I'd like to see it again
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Derryl Trujillo Official Scorekeeper-Woodcrest Christian High School Basketball Referee-Inland Volleyball Officials Association The golfing volleyball ref and official scorekeeper |
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Haven't seen the play yet.....
A.R. 123:
With four seconds left on the game clock, A1 inbounds the ball to A2. The timer incorrectly starts the game clock before the passed ball touches or is legally touched by an inbounds player. The official: (1) Recognizes the timer's mistake and immediately blows his whistle while the passed ball is in flight; or (2) Doesn't recognize the timer's mistake until the passed ball is controlled by Team A on the playing court, then blows his whistle. RULING: Since the timer has made a mistake, the official, with definite information relative to the time involved, shall place the correct time on the game clock. Play is resumed in (1) with a throw-in by Team A from the original throw-in spot; or in (2) with a throw-in to Team A at a spot nearest to where the ball was when the stoppage occurred. (Rule 5-12.1, 7-3.1.d and 7-4.3) |
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I'm never going to be D1. Can someone tell me why the crew doesn't get together and figure out what to do. If I get the ball and the horn goes off I might be freaked out and shot and air ball. How was this a fair way to end a close game?
I heard the officals (unoffically) said since he missed they went with the play. That cant be correct can it? Has the head of officials responded yet?
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Video: https://streamable.com/765g
Statement from officials: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxwZ5DKWQAAmgIu.jpg Using PTS, either one of the officials jumped the gun and hit their button early or it was the table clock operator. But the table guy says it wasn't him, thus throwing the officials under the bus. There is no way to know for sure because as far as I know, the NBA are the only ones who use the PTS system which records all the clock starts/stops and from which source they originated. |
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If I were to bet, C hit his button as the clock starts running right after he turns down the court. The way he has to hold his arm, and it moves a lot, makes this very easy to hit the button accidentally.
I wonder how hard it would be or how effective it would be to build in a system where it requires 2-3 presses with the second being the actual trigger. With 4 possible sets of eyes it should work out to get at least 2 hits. |
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I don't think that would be effective. |
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ESPN was saying only a few conferences put the clock control with the officials near the end of the game and this wasnt one of those sites. Seems silly not to do this over with the shooter being distracted with a huge horn going off that shouldn't...
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BigT "The rookie" |
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Then what was C doing? Holding his pants up?
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One may mistakenly or absent-mindedly hit the button, but the where it is positioned on the pack, it's damn near impossible to accidentally hit the button.
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A-hole formerly known as BNR |
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On-court official started clock early at MSU game |
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I make a mistake that cause the horn to go off early shocking the player scrambling to shot a last second shot and I think it has no affect on him so by rule I screwed up and that's the end of it?
Does anyone think I should tell my partners I messed up and give them the ball either spot with proper time used and go from there.
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BigT "The rookie" |
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Let's talk about positioning... what the hell was the C doing in the backcourt anyway? Officiating ghosts? The play starts with 8 players in the front court and the L has to deal with them all. The C is watching the inbounder... The T is trying to give the inbounder space but might as well be sitting in the 4th row. It looks like they were running 2-man, as I thought the C was actually the T who snuck up the court!
The table can't see the T even if he did chop the clock. You could say he guessed when the T chopped because of the poor sight line but perhaps the operator thought he would give the ole' home team clock advantage by starting it a touch early... I would like to know what the crew talked about during the timeout, last second responsibilities, coverage, etc, and why none of them seemed to notice the clock starting initially. This thing should have been blown dead and reset... |
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