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Refsmitty Mon Nov 28, 2016 03:16pm

I've seen it - but never seen it called
 
Shooter gets a pass in the corner for a 3 point try. He takes a quick baby hop before jumping into his shot - I think that is a travel by rule - do you call that?

Welpe Mon Nov 28, 2016 03:17pm

I've called it a few times.

OKREF Mon Nov 28, 2016 03:19pm

I've called it, several times. It does get missed a lot though. The times I've called it, a defensive player was running at the shooter, and the shooter does it do avoid the defensive player to get a clean look.

JRutledge Mon Nov 28, 2016 03:33pm

I have also called is several times if it is obvious. I try not to nitpick this, but often it is very obvious and I even called in Saturday in my game. Again much of this is judgment.

Peace

Adam Mon Nov 28, 2016 03:41pm

Like Rut, I call it when it's obvious and leave it alone when it's not. Sometimes it's quite obviously a legal jump stop, so you can't call it even if you just called it on the other team who did it wrong.

Raymond Mon Nov 28, 2016 03:44pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Refsmitty (Post 993665)
Shooter gets a pass in the corner for a 3 point try. He takes a quick baby hop before jumping into his shot - I think that is a travel by rule - do you call that?

Coaches here takes notice of it and complain when it is not called, especially when used to create space from the defender.

SNIPERBBB Mon Nov 28, 2016 04:02pm

Not always a travel if not done correctly. Lower level games is nearly always a travel.

BigT Mon Nov 28, 2016 04:51pm

If it creates an advantage hoping away from the defense its a travel?

If they hop giving the defense more time to defend it then its not a travel?

And its the same hop. No dribble picking up the pivot and putting it down.

Adam Mon Nov 28, 2016 05:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigT (Post 993683)
If it creates an advantage hoping away from the defense its a travel?

If they hop giving the defense more time to defend it then its not a travel?


And its the same hop. No dribble picking up the pivot and putting it down.

Who said this?

SC Official Mon Nov 28, 2016 06:19pm

Since when does advantage/disadvantage matter on violations?

BillyMac Mon Nov 28, 2016 07:33pm

One Example (They're Aren't Many) ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 993685)
Since when does advantage/disadvantage matter on violations?

Ten second free throw count?

Rich Mon Nov 28, 2016 08:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 993685)
Since when does advantage/disadvantage matter on violations?



Three second violations certainly are, especially by officials I want to work with.

SC Official Mon Nov 28, 2016 08:23pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 993690)
Three second violations certainly are, especially by officials I want to work with.

You're right. That was not a completely accurate statement on my part.

Nevadaref Tue Nov 29, 2016 01:13am

I believe that this is a point of emphasis for NCAAM this season.

Camron Rust Tue Nov 29, 2016 03:49am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich (Post 993690)
Three second violations certainly are, especially by officials I want to work with.

That could just as easily be categorized under intent and purpose of the rule without directly considering advantage/disadvantage in the traditional sense even though the rule really is addressing a specific advantage (tall players camping at the basket).


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