The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Basketball

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 12:35pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,010
VIDEO REQUEST: Kansas/Indiana Blarge

There was a play, mid to late second half I believe, which was called as a double foul when the Center came up with a charge at the same time the lead came up with a block. Officials came together and talked, went to the monitor, and then it was called as a double foul.

I'm surprised that 3 days later it hasn't been brought up here.

EDIT: It looks like this play occurred at the 6:50 mark of the 2nd half.
__________________
If you ain't first, you're LAST!!!

Last edited by WhistlesAndStripes; Mon Nov 14, 2016 at 12:49pm.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 12:51pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,966
6:50 in the second half was when it happened.

PC or no-call would've been my decision.

Of course Bilas didn't understand how it could possibly be a double foul.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 01:43pm
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,843
One of my conferences went to Synergy, I look up any play now. I just don't know how to clip them.....LOL
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 01:51pm
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,843
Quote:
Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes View Post
...
I'm surprised that 3 days later it hasn't been brought up here.

EDIT: It looks like this play occurred at the 6:50 mark of the 2nd half.
Those who saw it probably thought there was nothing new to learn from the play.

Folks post blarges every season. Then somebody will come in with the classic "if you pregame this, it will never happen" cliché.
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 01:55pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,966
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNewsRef View Post
Those who saw it probably thought there was nothing new to learn from the play.

Folks post blarges every season. Then somebody will come in with the classic "if you pregame this, it will never happen" cliché.
A-freaking-men.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 02:19pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,471
Here is the entire sequence.



Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 02:21pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by SC Official View Post
A-freaking-men.


Video of this game, with all the ESPN camera angles, was available early Saturday morning but by later in the day it was gone. You will find a few other videos on Youtube but they only have the feed from a camera mounted on the backboard at the opposite end of the court. Unfortunately, this video does not capture a good angle on the play and does not show both officials making their calls simultaneously. I, too, could not figure out how to clip the play out of the original video to post it and by the time I did it was too late. Regardless, despite the dreaded blarge being called on the play, the officials handled it well and neither coach gave them much grief. I thought a no-call would have been a better interpretation of the contact.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 02:25pm
AremRed
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Bunch of stuff going on here.

It's a rebound off a missed shot, so the RA doesn't apply. Which makes it weird why Lead is pointing in that direction. I suppose he could be pointing at the defender, but I'm pretty sure he was pointing at the RA. And the defender isn't even in the RA.

This is also a primary defender, and in Slot's area so I like the call form Slot. A bunch of people told me this is a block but I think this is a charge all day long.

Interestingly if the Lead did indeed call a RA blocking foul, then they could have gotten together and come out with just a charge. You can always bring information to change an RA call, and if information is brought then both Lead and Slot would have a charge call, and no blarge.

It sucks they can't get together and come out with one call like the NBA or NCAA-W but they did it correctly by their rule set.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 02:40pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1,966
If you're going to call a foul here, it's not even close IMO. PC all day long, and C should have the first crack at it. L doesn't need to blow across.

However, the dribbler stopped on contact and the contact was marginal, so I would even be fine with a no-call.
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 02:57pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Illinois
Posts: 1,804
I think the L was pointing to the player on the floor, not the arc. We always say blow and hold from the outside. It's C call but can be hard for L to lay off. If I'm C I blow whistle and as arm goes up I'm looking at L. If he does nothing then I can sell. If he's emphatic it's on him unless I can yell " I got it" before he signals. It's my call at C but it won't be the last time L doesn't lay off.
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 03:12pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2015
Posts: 536
The replay around :54 shows a pretty good angle as to the question of block or charge. It looks like the defender's got pretty good LGP and the offensive player displaces him, in my opinion.

Last edited by UNIgiantslayers; Mon Nov 14, 2016 at 03:20pm.
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 03:14pm
Do not give a damn!!
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: On the border
Posts: 30,471
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mconnors625 View Post
Video of this game, with all the ESPN camera angles, was available early Saturday morning but by later in the day it was gone. You will find a few other videos on Youtube but they only have the feed from a camera mounted on the backboard at the opposite end of the court. Unfortunately, this video does not capture a good angle on the play and does not show both officials making their calls simultaneously. I, too, could not figure out how to clip the play out of the original video to post it and by the time I did it was too late. Regardless, despite the dreaded blarge being called on the play, the officials handled it well and neither coach gave them much grief. I thought a no-call would have been a better interpretation of the contact.
For the record, this was all found by ESPN sources.

Peace
__________________
Let us get into "Good Trouble."
-----------------------------------------------------------
Charles Michael “Mick” Chambers (1947-2010)
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 07:22pm
Courageous When Prudent
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Hampton Roads, VA
Posts: 14,843
I would love to hear APG's opinion on this...LOL

Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk
__________________
A-hole formerly known as BNR
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old Mon Nov 14, 2016, 07:26pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Posts: 15,002
Demonstrates that even the top guys screw up.

If the shot clock was kept at 28 seconds for the ensuing throw-in, then the situation was handled properly by rule. Of course, I believe that the throw-in spot should have been on the C's side of the basket too.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old Tue Nov 15, 2016, 05:58am
APG APG is offline
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 5,889
Quote:
Originally Posted by BadNewsRef View Post
I would love to hear APG's opinion on this...LOL

Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk
Hey, I went back and looked...film said I got the call wrong for reasons not related to this play! LOL
__________________
Chaos isn't a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some, given a chance to climb, they refuse. They cling to the realm, or the gods, or love. Illusions.

Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
NBA Finals Blarge- Video Request VaTerp Basketball 0 Thu Jun 02, 2016 09:41pm
Video Request Kansas/OK tlavan Basketball 2 Tue Jan 05, 2016 09:38am
Kansas- Top 10 (video request) CountTheBasket Basketball 6 Tue Jan 21, 2014 11:15pm
Kansas vs Okla St - Blarge (Video Request) grunewar Basketball 15 Sun Jan 19, 2014 01:25pm
Video Request Indiana Miami: Foul causes a travel (Video Added) Sharpshooternes Basketball 12 Fri May 24, 2013 04:44pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:35am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1