Out of Bounds

[Camron Rust]

Originally posted by Hawks Coach
Cameron - if one player is OOB, can it legally be a held ball?

Yes, but only on a throw-in.

Example: In the run of play, ball is already in-bounds. Player B grabs at the ball while player A is in possession, and player B steps out while establishing a held ball. It would be an OOB violation on player B and A gets ball, right? B can't establish the held ball if they step out first.

Correct. One of the two has to happen first. Either B1 causes the ball to be OOB or it is a held ball. When the first one happens, the ball is dead and the clock is stopped.

Similarly, I would think the case cited here would result in a bizarre OOB call on A if they actually put the ball over the line and allowed B to tie them up legally while they were standing out of bounds. Wouldn't want to be the ref that had to call anything on this!

On this one, it is not OOB since A1 is legally OOB with the ball. A1 can not violate by being OOB. Only provisions of the throw-in can be violated (by A1) until the throw-in has ended.

See cases 7.6.3A and 7.6.3F (from a 98-99 book that I have here at work).

Ultimately, B1's touching of the ball on the inbounds side of the line is of no significance. If it is knocked loose, B1 may retreive the ball. If A1 then touches it before coming inbounds, it would be a OOB violation on A1. If the two players tie it up, it's a held ball since the throw-in had not ended.