SC State/Hampton Block/TC (video)

[JetMetFan]

Play was ultimately ruled a block after the C and L came together. The C had the block call.

[Nevadaref]

That's a charge. The defender did a fantastic job.

[Blindolbat]

I don't know if what they did qualifies as coming together.
I would've had a charge here and lead was well positioned to make this call.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Blindolbat

I don't know if what they did qualifies as coming together.
I would've had a charge here and lead was well positioned to make this call.

Trust me, they did. If I'd let it go longer we would've seen them talk for about 10-15 seconds.

[Camron Rust]

Torso/shoulder was shifting forward at the time of contact making it a block.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Torso/shoulder was shifting forward at the time of contact making it a block.

So much so that you'd say the defender had left her verticality and this no longer had LGP?

Looked to me she gained LGP and drew a charge.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That's a charge. The defender did a fantastic job.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He turned his left shoulder in to guarantee the contact.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Torso/shoulder was shifting forward at the time of contact making it a block.

The last two comments bring me back to what I posted recently in another thread, which was based on a conversation with the NCAAW SRE...

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

*Defenders aren't required to become statues once their feet hit the ground. It's not a fair expectation.
*Every player has their own vertical plane and they're allowed to rise within that plane. That includes straightening up.
*If their body moves forward outside their vertical plane and there's contact, they've committed a foul.

We're all going to see things differently at times but to me it doesn't appear the defender is moving forward outside his vertical plane. Sure, his chest puffs out but that might have been a method of absorbing the contact. Regardless, I'm not seeing him move outside his vertical plane - i.e., in front of his feet. Assuming a defender is in LGP to begin with they're allowed to rise or jump vertically and occupy that space. They're not permitted to "belly up" or use their lower body to cause contact outside their vertical plane.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

He turned his left shoulder in to guarantee the contact. I can go with a block.

Defenders are hurting themselves by embellishing and/or exaggerating the contact.

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan

The last two comments bring me back to what I posted recently in another thread, which was based on a conversation with the NCAAW SRE...



We're all going to see things differently at times but to me it doesn't appear the defender is moving forward outside his vertical plane. Sure, his chest puffs out but that might have been a method of absorbing the contact. Regardless, I'm not seeing him move outside his vertical plane - i.e., in front of his feet. Assuming a defender is in LGP to begin with they're allowed to rise or jump vertically and occupy that space. They're not permitted to "belly up" or use their lower body to cause contact outside their vertical plane.

You didn't reference my entire quote. Defenders are making unnatural movements to embellish and/or exaggerate contact.

At the 17 second mark of the video the defender has turned his upper body at an angle. If this causes an official to see the play in a different light, that is the defender's fault.

Block.

[Raymond]

He turned his left shoulder in to guarantee the contact. I can go with a block.

Defenders are hurting themselves by embellishing and/or exaggerating the contact.

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