Ff1 uva/gt

bballref3966 · #1 (**permalink**) Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:38pm

About 11:00 in the second half. Be prepared for Jay Bilas's ranting, JRut.

JRutledge · #2 (**permalink**) Thu Mar 10, 2016, 08:45pm

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Originally Posted by bballref3966

About 11:00 in the second half. Be prepared for Jay Bilas's ranting, JRut.

Give me until tonight and I will have this for you.

Peace

JRutledge · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:36am

Peace

Blindolbat · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:41am

Well at least if Bilas is going to rant, he might as well be right about it.

Camron Rust · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:28am

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Originally Posted by Blindolbat

Well at least if Bilas is going to rant, he might as well be right about it.

Well, he wasn't that wrong. The elbow only contacted the opponents bicep and was nowhere near being above his shoulders. The player who the elbow hit did flop...he acted like it hit him in the face and it didn't.

deecee · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 09:19am

As much as Bilas may be a blowhard who doesn't know rule application to save his life, even they are right now and then.

letemplay · #7 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 10:35am

Bilas: "No contact whatsoever" "Gigantic failure by the officials"

You guys think he's COMPLETELY right?

deecee · #8 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 10:59am

He's right in that there was no contact to warrant a FF1 and the offensive player flopped.

Camron Rust · #9 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:00pm

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Originally Posted by letemplay

Bilas: "No contact whatsoever" "Gigantic failure by the officials"

You guys think he's COMPLETELY right?

No....

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Well, he wasn't that wrong. The elbow only contacted the opponents bicep and was nowhere near being above his shoulders. The player who the elbow hit did flop...he acted like it hit him in the face and it didn't.

He was right that it shouldn't have been an F1. The official, when explaining the call to the table crew even gestured that it hit the opponent under the chin when it clearly didn't.

letemplay · #10 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:02pm

He snaps his head back on his own to avoid getting hit by the elbow(flop) but I think he gets hip checked and arm shoved pretty well by 0, a bigger player. So no F1 maybe, but def imo a common foul, but maybe that's what Jay's rant is more about I guess is what you guys are saying? I sure don't agree with him that a T could be called on the "flopper"

letemplay · #11 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 12:07pm

Sorry, it was an "egregious" failure, rather than a gigantic one

Nevadaref · #12 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:20pm

I can understand getting this incorrect during live play, but not after having the opportunity to review the action on the monitor.

BlueDevilRef · #13 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 01:41pm

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Originally Posted by letemplay

I sure don't agree with him that a T could be called on the "flopper"

By rule, in NFHS, it could happen. Not sure if it is NCAA as well. I've never called it but I believe a saw some posts here in the past that others have.

rockyroad · #14 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 02:26pm

Do we know what camera angles they had to look at? If they did not see the baseline camera angle, then it absolutely does look like the elbow caught the UVA player under the chin. That baseline camera angle is the only one that shows that it was a fantastic acting job.

JRutledge · #15 (**permalink**) Fri Mar 11, 2016, 03:43pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad

Do we know what camera angles they had to look at? If they did not see the baseline camera angle, then it absolutely does look like the elbow caught the UVA player under the chin. That baseline camera angle is the only one that shows that it was a fantastic acting job.

This is not totally reliable, but the broadcaster said they saw all the same replays that they showed on TV. Now whether they had actually seen them that is another story. But if that is the case, it was a bad miss on replay.

Peace