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bballref3966 Thu Mar 10, 2016 08:38pm

Ff1 uva/gt
 
About 11:00 in the second half. Be prepared for Jay Bilas's ranting, JRut. :D

JRutledge Thu Mar 10, 2016 08:45pm

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Originally Posted by bballref3966 (Post 983749)
About 11:00 in the second half. Be prepared for Jay Bilas's ranting, JRut. :D

Give me until tonight and I will have this for you.

Peace

JRutledge Fri Mar 11, 2016 01:36am

Here is the video.
 
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Peace

Blindolbat Fri Mar 11, 2016 01:41am

Well at least if Bilas is going to rant, he might as well be right about it.

Camron Rust Fri Mar 11, 2016 02:28am

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Originally Posted by Blindolbat (Post 983774)
Well at least if Bilas is going to rant, he might as well be right about it.

Well, he wasn't that wrong. The elbow only contacted the opponents bicep and was nowhere near being above his shoulders. The player who the elbow hit did flop...he acted like it hit him in the face and it didn't.

deecee Fri Mar 11, 2016 09:19am

As much as Bilas may be a blowhard who doesn't know rule application to save his life, even they are right now and then.

letemplay Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:35am

Bilas: "No contact whatsoever" "Gigantic failure by the officials"

You guys think he's COMPLETELY right?

deecee Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:59am

He's right in that there was no contact to warrant a FF1 and the offensive player flopped.

Camron Rust Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:00pm

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Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 983790)
Bilas: "No contact whatsoever" "Gigantic failure by the officials"

You guys think he's COMPLETELY right?

No....

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 983776)
Well, he wasn't that wrong. The elbow only contacted the opponents bicep and was nowhere near being above his shoulders. The player who the elbow hit did flop...he acted like it hit him in the face and it didn't.

He was right that it shouldn't have been an F1. The official, when explaining the call to the table crew even gestured that it hit the opponent under the chin when it clearly didn't.

letemplay Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:02pm

He snaps his head back on his own to avoid getting hit by the elbow(flop) but I think he gets hip checked and arm shoved pretty well by 0, a bigger player. So no F1 maybe, but def imo a common foul, but maybe that's what Jay's rant is more about I guess is what you guys are saying? I sure don't agree with him that a T could be called on the "flopper"

letemplay Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:07pm

Sorry, it was an "egregious" failure, rather than a gigantic one;)

Nevadaref Fri Mar 11, 2016 01:20pm

I can understand getting this incorrect during live play, but not after having the opportunity to review the action on the monitor.

BlueDevilRef Fri Mar 11, 2016 01:41pm

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Originally Posted by letemplay (Post 983798)
I sure don't agree with him that a T could be called on the "flopper"


By rule, in NFHS, it could happen. Not sure if it is NCAA as well. I've never called it but I believe a saw some posts here in the past that others have.

rockyroad Fri Mar 11, 2016 02:26pm

Do we know what camera angles they had to look at? If they did not see the baseline camera angle, then it absolutely does look like the elbow caught the UVA player under the chin. That baseline camera angle is the only one that shows that it was a fantastic acting job.

JRutledge Fri Mar 11, 2016 03:43pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 983817)
Do we know what camera angles they had to look at? If they did not see the baseline camera angle, then it absolutely does look like the elbow caught the UVA player under the chin. That baseline camera angle is the only one that shows that it was a fantastic acting job.

This is not totally reliable, but the broadcaster said they saw all the same replays that they showed on TV. Now whether they had actually seen them that is another story. But if that is the case, it was a bad miss on replay.

Peace


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