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Camron Rust Wed Mar 09, 2016 06:26pm
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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 983661)
I'm not sure the video matters. I just count.
Likewise. Only certain things get visible count. And this isn't one of them.

OKREF Thu Mar 10, 2016 08:53am
I was told at a camp once, to always have a visual count when the ball is in the backcourt no matter what time was left on the clock, just in case there is a scenario where the clock doesn't start.

Adam Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:36am
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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 983648)
If there are less than 10 seconds in the game do you even have a backcourt count?

FYI, I don't have one in those situations, but should I in case something like this happens?
I always do, for precisely this reason.

just another ref Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:50am
If there were only 3 seconds and you're already at 2, I would say it's better to wait one more second and say game over than to blow it dead at this point.

Adam Thu Mar 10, 2016 11:59am
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 983708)
If there were only 3 seconds and you're already at 2, I would say it's better to wait one more second and say game over than to blow it dead at this point.
If A1 is about to shoot, I'm ok with that. If he's watching the clock, kill it and restart with 1 second.

just another ref Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:13pm
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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 983710)
If A1 is about to shoot, I'm ok with that. If he's watching the clock, kill it and restart with 1 second.
In the op the team with the ball is ahead, so a potential shot is not a factor.

Adam Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:54pm
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Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 983711)
In the op the team with the ball is ahead, so a potential shot is not a factor.
Good point.

RefLarry Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:12pm
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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 983645)
The other posters are correct. About five years ago the NFHS officials manual contained a statement that that are no do-overs in high school basketball. Timing errors occur and officials need to know the rules for how to deal with them.
To my knowledge the closest thing to a "do over" in high school basketball is explained here:

6.4.5 Situation B:

During an alternating-possession throw-in, thrower A1 holds the ball through the end-line plane and B1 grabs it, resulting in a held ball.

RULING: Since the throw-in had not ended and no violation occurred, it is still A's ball for an alternating-possession throw-in. (4-42-5).

Nevadaref Sat Mar 12, 2016 12:18pm
IMO a situation which looks like a do-over is an inadvertent whistle while a throw-in pass is in flight. Actually, anything which would warrant using POI in this situation.


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