Radio Announcer Tossed

[bballref3966]

Green Bay announcer ejected during Horizon League tournament game

Never seen something like this before...

[constable]

Ridiculous move by the official. Don't get me wrong, I cringe whenever I hear the likes of Vitale and Bilas butcher a rule, but this is just stupid.

[Adam]

I can tell you if someone at the table is behaving like that in a high school game, he's likely going to be shown the door.

I'm guessing he wasn't doing any more waving when he came back to the booth.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Adam

I can tell you if someone at the table is behaving like that in a high school game, he's likely going to be shown the door.

I'm guessing he wasn't doing any more waving when he came back to the booth.

If I warn the guy likely is turning into definite.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by constable

Ridiculous move by the official. Don't get me wrong, I cringe whenever I hear the likes of Vitale and Bilas butcher a rule, but this is just stupid.

I don't know about this, I would absolutely do it too. If the guy is at the table, then he's not going to make a show about my calls, and that's it. The only thing that really surprised me here is that he was allowed back, I'm curious how that occurred.

[SoInZebra]

Originally Posted by frezer11

I don't know about this, I would absolutely do it too. If the guy is at the table, then he's not going to make a show about my calls, and that's it. The only thing that really surprised me here is that he was allowed back, I'm curious how that occurred.

The radio guy was the only guy Green Bay had - so it was radio silence. The commissioner checked with the coordinator and decided it was in best interest to let him back with the coordinator as chaperone for a little bit to make sure he behaved. The league media guy was involved too. The announcer has a history of being a good citizen.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I checked bbstate (website is down), ESPN.com (didn't have box score) and the Green Bay and Valparaiso athletic department websites (officials were not listed in box score) and found absolutely zilch on who these guys were. I smell a coverup.

Pat Adams was the official who went to the table and mimicked the gestures that the radio announcer did and had him removed. Doug Sirmons was also on the game. Mike Roberts was the third. The names are listed in the video at the link below.

Originally Posted by SoInZebra

The radio guy was the only guy Green Bay had - so it was radio silence. The commissioner checked with the coordinator and decided it was in best interest to let him back with the coordinator as chaperone for a little bit to make sure he behaved. The league media guy was involved too. The announcer has a history of being a good citizen.

The article which I read stated that a broadcaster from another school (Oakland) jumped in for him while he was gone. There is no reason that he couldn't have finished the contest. The incident occurred with 12:29 remaining in the 2nd half and the game went to OT.
This Play-By-Play Announcer Was Ejected After Arguing With A Ref

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Pat Adams was the official who went to the table and mimicked the gestures that the radio announcer did and had him removed. Doug Sirmons was also on the game. Mike Roberts was the third. The names are listed in the video at the link below.

Yeah I ended up watching the video online and could tell who they were. Wanna bet it was Sirmons again?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

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This Play-By-Play Announcer Was Ejected After Arguing With A Ref

OK, that video showed me nothing but Adams waving his arms and gesturing. I couldn't find the person at the table doing it.

I checked bbstate (website is down), ESPN.com (didn't have box score) and the Green Bay and Valparaiso athletic department websites (officials were not listed in box score) and found absolutely zilch on who these guys were. I smell a coverup.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by constable

Ridiculous move by the official. Don't get me wrong, I cringe whenever I hear the likes of Vitale and Bilas butcher a rule, but this is just stupid.

Why is it stupid to expect that personnel sitting at the table will act like professionals and not fanboys?

If you're sitting on press row you do not get to act like he did without repercussions. Period.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by constable

Ridiculous move by the official. Don't get me wrong, I cringe whenever I hear the likes of Vitale and Bilas butcher a rule, but this is just stupid.

So...as a guy who works in the media and *has* done play-by-play from courtside at basketball games I have to agree with Constable

I have no idea what the broadcaster said and I don't condone acting the fool when doing a game, especially if you're close enough that players, coaches and officials can hear and see you. However, there's no rule justification for an official to kick a broadcaster out of the playing area any more than there is for an official - on his/her own - to kick a fan out of the playing area for saying their calls stink. If there's an issue, tell game management and let those folks deal with it. Game management will get in contact with the broadcast people, the conference representative or the broadcaster himself and straighten out the situation. The broadcaster isn't a team member so we don't have jurisdiction over him.

As to why he was allowed back in that's simple, at least to me. His station - and the advertisers on the broadcast - are paying for *him* to do the game, not the guy from Oakland University who stepped in to help. Radio silence = lost revenue. His station will deal with the situation if it sees fit.

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[Nevadaref]

I disagree completely. Anyone causing a disturbance or disrupting those involved in the game should be removed.
I don't know where you got the idea that the official went and removed the radio guy. Watch the video. He clearly reported to someone behind the scorer what he did and instructed that person or persons to remove him.
Lastly, I don't give a darn how much he is being paid or others paid for him to be there. If he behaves poorly, he leaves and they can find a replacement or lose out on their bad investment.

[JetMetFan]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Anyone causing a disturbance or disrupting those involved in the game should be removed.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I don't know where you got the idea that the official went and removed the radio guy. Watch the video. He clearly reported to someone behind the scorer what he did and instructed that person or persons to remove him.

I was only able to read the article at the time of my prior post but I'm still not in favor of telling GM to kick him out unless he's cursing out me, my partners or team members. If GM gets in contact with the appropriate folks connected to the broadcast I guarantee it stops.

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Lastly, I don't give a darn how much he is being paid or others paid for him to be there. If he behaves poorly, he leaves and they can find a replacement or lose out on their bad investment.

That's good because we shouldn't. Our job is to officiate the game. However, someone is paying for that media coverage and whatever that company may feel about the guy's behavior its representatives aren't going to like it when the air goes dead or when someone else's voice is on their station. It's the reality of broadcasting an event. It's a conference tournament game which means there will be a conference media representative available to handle things along with a producer for the radio station. Frankly, the conference person probably would've had more clout.

[bballref3966]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

That's good because we shouldn't. Our job is to officiate the game. However, someone is paying for that media coverage and whatever that company may feel about the guy's behavior its representatives aren't going to like it when the air goes dead or when someone else's voice is on their station. It's the reality of broadcasting an event. It's a conference tournament game which means there will be a conference media representative available to handle things along with a producer for the radio station. Frankly, the conference person probably would've had more clout.

The part of this post that's irrelevant. By this logic, we shouldn't have the authority to dismiss anyone. Fans pay for tickets, are you going to say that we can't kick them out?

It's really simple. Say whatever you want on the air, but throw your hands up and you're asking for it. Sorry, but you don't get to act however you want on press row like fans do. (Just for the record, I have no problem with GM allowing him to return to the broadcast after a brief "time-out.")