Radio Announcer Tossed

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

I checked bbstate (website is down), ESPN.com (didn't have box score) and the Green Bay and Valparaiso athletic department websites (officials were not listed in box score) and found absolutely zilch on who these guys were. I smell a coverup.

Pat Adams was the official who went to the table and mimicked the gestures that the radio announcer did and had him removed. Doug Sirmons was also on the game. Mike Roberts was the third. The names are listed in the video at the link below.

Originally Posted by SoInZebra

The radio guy was the only guy Green Bay had - so it was radio silence. The commissioner checked with the coordinator and decided it was in best interest to let him back with the coordinator as chaperone for a little bit to make sure he behaved. The league media guy was involved too. The announcer has a history of being a good citizen.

The article which I read stated that a broadcaster from another school (Oakland) jumped in for him while he was gone. There is no reason that he couldn't have finished the contest. The incident occurred with 12:29 remaining in the 2nd half and the game went to OT.
This Play-By-Play Announcer Was Ejected After Arguing With A Ref

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Pat Adams was the official who went to the table and mimicked the gestures that the radio announcer did and had him removed. Doug Sirmons was also on the game. Mike Roberts was the third. The names are listed in the video at the link below.

Yeah I ended up watching the video online and could tell who they were. Wanna bet it was Sirmons again?

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Yeah I ended up watching the video online and could tell who they were. Wanna bet it was Sirmons again?

I'd do well in that bet since I just told you it was Pat Adams.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Yeah I ended up watching the video online and could tell who they were. Wanna bet it was Sirmons again?

Not sure what your vendetta is with an official who's worked the Final Four multiple times.

[Rich]

I see this same kind of behavior from media on Twitter locally (I live in a B1G city). They see nothing wrong with it. They think their job allows them to complain constantly about the officiating and be unabashed homers whenever they want.

Media people used to be more professional than this.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Rich

I see this same kind of behavior from media on Twitter locally (I live in a B1G city). They see nothing wrong with it. They think their job allows them to complain constantly about the officiating and be unabashed homers whenever they want.

Media people used to be more professional than this.

A local sports reporter did exactly that on Twitter in a recent HS game in my area. He was disrespectful to the officials working the contest and unprofessional.

I'm certain that he enters the building for free with a media pass. I think that it would be great if the leadership of the officiating group would contact his employing company and express a concern about his social media behavior. I would even ask that they send a different reporter to cover future HS contests with their media credential.

How amusing would it be for him to get ejected and have to buy a ticket to get back in?

[Krr25]

Originally Posted by Rich

I see this same kind of behavior from media on Twitter locally (I live in a B1G city). They see nothing wrong with it. They think their job allows them to complain constantly about the officiating and be unabashed homers whenever they want.

Media people used to be more professional than this.

The media also criticizes teams, players, coaches, AD's, etc. They seem to be able to handle it. Oddly, they are even asked and take questions from the media about things right after games. I guess some are above criticism though or can't handle it. I don't know why some want to shy away from accountability or think they can't improve.

The games are happening because of the players, coaches, schools..not the officials games and that's what people want to see. People and players are tired of 40 foul games that are decided by free throws and foul outs, they want to see players win games.

Pat Adams may be a great person but he's repeatedly shown he can't handle emotions that happen from competition and human beings and for whatever...and he can't mentally focus on what he needs to without getting his feelings hurt. It's okay to be questioned..no one should think they are above reproach.

Absolutely no accountability in the paycheck collecting world of contract work. Where everyone feels they can insert themselves and have no repercussions in the good ole boy network

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by Krr25

The games are happening because of the players, coaches, schools..not the officials games and that's what people want to see. People and players are tired of 40 foul games that are decided by free throws and foul outs, they want to see players win games.

Officials are there to see to it that rules are followed and the game is therefore fair. If doing that leads to a lot of fouls and free throws the problem is NOT the officials but the players or the rules themselves.

I'm not defending this officials actions, but I'm absolutely defending officials in general from ignorant statements like this.

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[Rich]

Originally Posted by Krr25

The media also criticizes teams, players, coaches, AD's, etc. They seem to be able to handle it. Oddly, they are even asked and take questions from the media about things right after games. I guess some are above criticism though or can't handle it. I don't know why some want to shy away from accountability or think they can't improve.

The games are happening because of the players, coaches, schools..not the officials games and that's what people want to see. People and players are tired of 40 foul games that are decided by free throws and foul outs, they want to see players win games.

Pat Adams may be a great person but he's repeatedly shown he can't handle emotions that happen from competition and human beings and for whatever...and he can't mentally focus on what he needs to without getting his feelings hurt. It's okay to be questioned..no one should think they are above reproach.

Absolutely no accountability in the paycheck collecting world of contract work. Where everyone feels they can insert themselves and have no repercussions in the good ole boy network

I'm not exactly sure who your rant is directed at. The NCAA and its coaches wanted the game cleaned up. If there are 40 fouls per game called, it's because that's what the teams/coaches/leagues/NCAA wants.

The conference hires the officials. Surely if the teams are *that* unhappy with the work, they'll ask their supervisor of officials to hire others....or they'll get a new supervisor of officials. I'm guessing they're thrilled to have officials like Pat Adams working for them.

It's fine to question officials. However, when local media do nothing but question calls that go against the home team, that just strikes me as completely idiotic. Frankly, I can't believe that people believe that bullcrap.

At least the national announcers are equal opportunity offenders.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Krr25

The media also criticizes teams, players, coaches, AD's, etc. They seem to be able to handle it. Oddly, they are even asked and take questions from the media about things right after games. I guess some are above criticism though or can't handle it. I don't know why some want to shy away from accountability or think they can't improve.

The games are happening because of the players, coaches, schools..not the officials games and that's what people want to see. People and players are tired of 40 foul games that are decided by free throws and foul outs, they want to see players win games.

Pat Adams may be a great person but he's repeatedly shown he can't handle emotions that happen from competition and human beings and for whatever...and he can't mentally focus on what he needs to without getting his feelings hurt. It's okay to be questioned..no one should think they are above reproach.

Absolutely no accountability in the paycheck collecting world of contract work. Where everyone feels they can insert themselves and have no repercussions in the good ole boy network

Another clown who knows nothing about how the rules are written and who dictates points of emphasis. Just running your trap. Thank you for watching NCAA basketball.

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[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Another clown who knows nothing about how the rules are written and who dictates points of emphasis. Just running your trap. Thank you for watching NCAA basketball.

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It must be March.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Go back and check the tape. I didn't trash Sirmons then and I'm not trashing Sirmons now. My comment above was tongue-in-cheek. I think Sirmons is a great official. He is one of my favorite guys to watch and I have stolen several of his mechanics. That doesn't prevent me from questioning (not trashing) his handling of the Calipari situation.

Saying "the way Sirmons handles business is fine cuz of how high he has work" is inherently fallacious. It's akin to the Euthyphro dilemma of "Is something right because God commanded it, or does God command it because it is right?" It's not wrong to question an official because he's worked multiple Final Fours -- not one of us is above reproach and there is something we can learn from every situation.

Originally Posted by AremRed

Wanna bet it was Sirmons again?

When you make idiotic statements like this, all it does is make you look like you've got some personal vendetta.

Originally Posted by Krr25

The media also criticizes teams, players, coaches, AD's, etc. They seem to be able to handle it. Oddly, they are even asked and take questions from the media about things right after games. I guess some are above criticism though or can't handle it. I don't know why some want to shy away from accountability or think they can't improve.

The games are happening because of the players, coaches, schools..not the officials games and that's what people want to see. People and players are tired of 40 foul games that are decided by free throws and foul outs, they want to see players win games.

Pat Adams may be a great person but he's repeatedly shown he can't handle emotions that happen from competition and human beings and for whatever...and he can't mentally focus on what he needs to without getting his feelings hurt. It's okay to be questioned..no one should think they are above reproach.

Absolutely no accountability in the paycheck collecting world of contract work. Where everyone feels they can insert themselves and have no repercussions in the good ole boy network

mutantducky is that you again?

Ah, the return of the fanboys. I love March.

Originally Posted by SC Official

When you make idiotic statements like this, all it does is make you look like you've got some personal vendetta.

As I said, I don't. My comment was tongue-in-cheek, although I should have included an emoji to make that more clear.

I have Sirmons' phone number, do you want me to call him up and apologize?

[Multiple Sports]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Not sure what your vendetta is with an official who's worked the Final Four multiple times.

SC -

I find it amusing on this site that around this time of year there is a lot of bashing on guys that are going to most likely get to the regional semis and finals......but I don't know why.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by SC Official

Not sure what your vendetta is with an official who's worked the Final Four multiple times.

That's tantamount to asking what's his issue with some CEO of a multi-million dollar company. Success in one's field doesn't exclude the individual from being a jerk.