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Old Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:29pm
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Ideally the C gets this. This is a great example of being diligent and not bailing to early as the C on a made basket.

I admit I missed it the first time through because I was looking for a travel on the shooter too.

This happened in a playoff game last week.

EDIT: The C doesn't bail here but he's watching the ball which he shouldn't. The L has that. I will observe any any all players as they clear the lane in transition. I have nightmares of stuff like this happening.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:33pm
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Ideally the C gets this. This is a great example of being diligent and not bailing to early as the C on a made basket.
C has the best angle, but T had "notice" since the kid came flying in from the T's primary. C stayed with the shooter a bit too long.

Answer to your question: Flagrant T on #20.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:37pm
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Ideally the C gets this. This is a great example of being diligent and not bailing to early as the C on a made basket.

I admit I missed it the first time through because I was looking for a travel on the shooter too.

This happened in a playoff game last week.

EDIT: The C doesn't bail here but he's watching the ball which he shouldn't. The L has that. I will observe any any all players as they clear the lane in transition. I have nightmares of stuff like this happening.
I'm guessing this went uncalled/unnoticed at the time. Once this video got out, was there any feedback to the crew for missing this?
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:42pm
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I'm guessing this went uncalled/unnoticed at the time. Once this video got out, was there any feedback to the crew for missing this?
I don't know the crew or what happened. I assume there was because this has been emailed to our whole association as an FYI.

I have nightmares about being in an FYI video as well.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2016, 02:46pm
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I don't know the crew or what happened. I assume there was because this has been emailed to our whole association as an FYI.

I have nightmares about being in an FYI video as well.
That's been one of my pregame mantras, especially now in the post-season: I don't want to be on you-tube!
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I had a travel the first time for dragging his right pivot foot. Since I see a defender lying on the ground afterwards, I'm assuming something was done for him to go to the ground.

So, I'm looking again and I see the punch to the gut.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:38pm
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1) travel

2) I thought white may have been pushed on the rebound from behind so that's what I was watching for.


Missed the punch.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2016, 04:24pm
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I had a travel the first time for dragging his right pivot foot. Since I see a defender lying on the ground afterwards, I'm assuming something was done for him to go to the ground.

So, I'm looking again and I see the punch to the gut.
I agree.

It took me a couple views to see the "punch" and then a couple more to decide it was deliberate.

If that isn't caught, I wouldn't be surprised. An official would have to be looking at exactly that from exactly the right spot at exactly the right time. That is why the NCAA has gone to video to review things like this....they are easy to miss even when you do things right.
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I agree.

It took me a couple views to see the "punch" and then a couple more to decide it was deliberate.

If that isn't caught, I wouldn't be surprised. An official would have to be looking at exactly that from exactly the right spot at exactly the right time. That is why the NCAA has gone to video to review things like this....they are easy to miss even when you do things right.
I'd be in favor of expanding video review in HS games to include potential flagrant or intentional fouls. Might be a bit beyond reach right now, but it would be a better and more productive use of funds than buying shot clocks for every school. The plug-n-play technology already exists for this.
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I had a travel the first time for dragging his right pivot foot. Since I see a defender lying on the ground afterwards, I'm assuming something was done for him to go to the ground. So, I'm looking again and I see the punch to the gut.
Same here.

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