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Old Sun Feb 21, 2016, 10:23am
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A couple of years ago I had a small school JV girls game, about 45 minutes out of town. One team was just outclassed and would have been in violation of Nevada state rules. The home team got off to a 56-0 start.

At one point, I called a phantom foul and to put a visitor on the FT line. The home player put her arms up and looked at me like I was crazy for calling her for a foul. I took a leap and made it clear to her why I did it, and she was good with it at that point.

Not sure I'd do it in a varsity game, I've never been in that exact position in a varsity game.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:38am
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A couple of years ago I had a small school JV girls game, about 45 minutes out of town. One team was just outclassed and would have been in violation of Nevada state rules. The home team got off to a 56-0 start.

At one point, I called a phantom foul and to put a visitor on the FT line. The home player put her arms up and looked at me like I was crazy for calling her for a foul. I took a leap and made it clear to her why I did it, and she was good with it at that point.

Not sure I'd do it in a varsity game, I've never been in that exact position in a varsity game.
Varsity game. Both teams were trying to let a kid score, but he couldn't make it to the rim -- tried twice. Blew my whistle and reported the foul on 352 to the table.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2016, 11:49am
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Varsity game. Both teams were trying to let a kid score, but he couldn't make it to the rim -- tried twice. Blew my whistle and reported the foul on 352 to the table.
He couldn't make it to the rim, so you're going to let him try to shoot from further away?


But in all seriousness, even in this situation, I don't think I'd make up a foul and then make up a 3 digit number as well. I have no issue with calling a phantom foul like this if the circumstances are right, but call it on a kid on the floor, hopefully someone you know doesn't have 4 fouls.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2016, 12:19pm
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He couldn't make it to the rim, so you're going to let him try to shoot from further away?


But in all seriousness, even in this situation, I don't think I'd make up a foul and then make up a 3 digit number as well. I have no issue with calling a phantom foul like this if the circumstances are right, but call it on a kid on the floor, hopefully someone you know doesn't have 4 fouls.
We do weird things when officiating for the D&B. They got a kick out of it.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2016, 03:27pm
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I heard about a coach in my state whose team was playing a team who had a player with some sort of mental disability (Down syndrome I think). They had the game well in hand and since it was the end of the season, the other coach emptied his bench, including the aforementioned kid. So Coach A says to the ref "T me up. Give me one." The ref kinda looks at him like he's crazy.

He repeats: "T me up. Give me a ****ing technical." At this point the ref really has no choice. Coach B sends the disabled kid to the line and suddenly it all made sense to the officials. Never heard if the kid made the shots or not.
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Old Tue Feb 23, 2016, 12:21am
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I heard about a coach in my state whose team was playing a team who had a player with some sort of mental disability (Down syndrome I think). They had the game well in hand and since it was the end of the season, the other coach emptied his bench, including the aforementioned kid. So Coach A says to the ref "T me up. Give me one." The ref kinda looks at him like he's crazy.

He repeats: "T me up. Give me a ****ing technical." At this point the ref really has no choice. Coach B sends the disabled kid to the line and suddenly it all made sense to the officials. Never heard if the kid made the shots or not.
I think there are a lot of nice stories about opposing players and coaches making adjustments to allow a particular player to score a basket he or she didn't deserve.

I understand that officials are supposed to be impartial. However, coaches are supposed to coach in a way that most benefits their team and players are supposed to compete to the best of their abilities.

To me, if a player is going to get something he didn't deserve, it doesn't really matter whether the coach earned a T, the opponents played NBA All Star Game Defense, an opponent fouled a player, or a referee found a foul.

Somebody had to violate their "honor" to be the best coach/player/official they can be and make a mockery of a segment of the game for the overall good.

I don't think there is anything wrong with an official refusing to make up a foul, but I don't think there is anything wrong with a coach refusing to tell his players to not intentionally foul a particular player, or a player for refusing to create an opportunity for an opponent to score.

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