North Carolina St. @ Virginia (Video) 3 Plays to discuss

Play 1: not a travel at any level

Play 2: shooting foul

Play 3: Travel but I wouldn't even be looking there. Not a crew saver.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Play 1: not a travel at any level

Play 2: shooting foul

Play 3: Travel but I wouldn't even be looking there. Not a crew saver.

Huh? How is #2 a shooting foul and why would any official let such an egregious travel go? Also it was a last second shot, what else is there to look at?

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Huh? How is #2 a shooting foul and why would any official let such an egregious travel go? Also it was a last second shot, what else is there to look at?

It's close but I believe the foul in #2 happens during upward motion. Thus I would count the shot.

What else is there to look at? I dunno, maybe his area? Outside the 3pt line right in front of Trail is not somewhere I would be looking as Lead.

[Camron Rust]

#1, not that close but not that blatant either. These are pretty easy to see but I don't call them because others don't. I'm not going to be the only one. They should just change the rule to match what is called. Of course, if they do that, officials will start letting them take 4-5 steps before calling it.

#2, the defender grabbed the offensive player's arm as the last dribble was coming back up to the hand...hard to be in the shooting motion before the player is holding the ball.

#3, egregious and obvious....should have been called by anyone who saw it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by AremRed

It's close but I believe the foul in #2 happens during upward motion. Thus I would count the shot.

He gets fouls before he even gathered his dribble.

Originally Posted by AremRed

What else is there to look at? I dunno, maybe his area? Outside the 3pt line right in front of Trail is not somewhere I would be looking as Lead.

If you are trying to get better, that thinking is not going to help. That travel would have been a ding against the entire crew if it was not called.

On a last second shot what is going on in his area that is more important that the shooter? Officials I work with talk about last second shots and making sure everyone has an opinion. Hard to have an opinion if your staring at the paint for a rebound that is never going to happen.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by AremRed

It's close but I believe the foul in #2 happens during upward motion. Thus I would count the shot.

What else is there to look at? I dunno, maybe his area? Outside the 3pt line right in front of Trail is not somewhere I would be looking as Lead.

That's a last second shot. If as the lead you aren't going to help with the feet on a last second shot then what good are you to the crew? The only exception would be if you had "real" action in your PCA.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by AremRed

Play 1: not a travel at any level

Play 2: shooting foul

Play 3: Travel but I wouldn't even be looking there. Not a crew saver.

1. Is travel but happens so fast not called by many/most officials. As someone else said, it doesn't do the game any good if only one official calls travel.

2. Player was dribbling ball on first foul and one I think he called. Not shooting.

3. If somebody doesn't call it they look like clowns....player made a 4th or 5th grade move. No call makes officials look like 4th or 5th grade officials...

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by aremred

play 1: Not a travel at any level

play 2: Shooting foul

play 3: Travel but i wouldn't even be looking there. Not a crew saver.

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