North Carolina St. @ Virginia (Video) 3 Plays to discuss

[Dad]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

To be fair I do not think it is an active philosophy, I think officials call a lot of travels that they hear people yelling about rather than calling it based on which foot is a pivot or they understand why they actually made the call based on the rules.

Peace

Rarely will officials be honest to peers and say I blew my whistle because it looked funny. But, many times on a goofy travel call, I'll ask what they saw and what they say happened wasn't even close to the actual play. aka, they blew their whistle because it looked funny.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Dad

Rarely will officials be honest to peers and say I blew my whistle because it looked funny. But, many times on a goofy travel call, I'll ask what they saw and what they say happened wasn't even close to the actual play. aka, they blew their whistle because it looked funny.

I have admitted to this couple times. Like "SH!P THAT HAD TO HAVE BEEN A TRAVEL."

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Dad

Rarely will officials be honest to peers and say I blew my whistle because it looked funny. But, many times on a goofy travel call, I'll ask what they saw and what they say happened wasn't even close to the actual play. aka, they blew their whistle because it looked funny.

I am a clinician in my state which means I can run camps or participate in camps. I tend to ask officials often about the travels they call, many times they do not give a reasonable explanation where it is clear they saw the play. I have even seen just basic moves being called a travel and the quick or obvious ones not ever called like when players run a bit before they dribble the ball.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I tend to ask officials often about the travels they call, many times they do not give a reasonable explanation where it is clear they saw the play.

Anytime a coach questions my travel call, or non call, I always respond with which foot (right, or left) I identified as the pivot foot, and what the illegal, or legal, move was. Telling a questioner which foot was the pivot foot tells them that I was really paying attention. Traveling is still the hardest call for me to make (especially at the end of a dribble), I'm sure that I make mistakes several times a season, but my explanation usually satisfies most coaches.

[Pantherdreams]

1. I needed the second slow motion to be sure it was a travel, so in real time I'm not calling it.

2. Lots of contact to choose from way before any attempt to start shooting the ball.

3. If he doesn't get that one the crew (including him look real bad at the time, when their commish sees it, and one highlight reals all night).

[Zoochy]

Video #2
Is continuous motion ruled different at NCAAM and NCAAW than NFHS?
As I read Rule 4-11 and fundamental #17, I error on the side of 'In the Act of Shooting'.
The reason I believe there is a difference is because the tern 'Upward Motion' is used a few times in the posts.
I cannot find Upward Motion in NFHS

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

Video #2
Is continuous motion ruled different at NCAAM and NCAAW than NFHS?
As I read Rule 4-11 and fundamental #17, I error on the side of 'In the Act of Shooting'.
The reason I believe there is a difference is because the tern 'Upward Motion' is used a few times in the posts.
I cannot find Upward Motion in NFHS

It is an NCAAM interpretation. It has nothing to do with the NFHS Rules.

Peace

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Zoochy

Video #2
Is continuous motion ruled different at NCAAM and NCAAW than NFHS?
As I read Rule 4-11 and fundamental #17, I error on the side of 'In the Act of Shooting'.
The reason I believe there is a difference is because the tern 'Upward Motion' is used a few times in the posts.
I cannot find Upward Motion in NFHS

It has to do with the ball and it's motion in regards to calling a player in the act of shooting or not for the purposes of FT's. The NCAAM rules committee is doing whatever they can to make the act of shooting a very complicated topic. Although they did improve it greatly this year over the mess they created last season.

Play 1: not a travel at any level

Play 2: shooting foul

Play 3: Travel but I wouldn't even be looking there. Not a crew saver.