I had no idea what to call....

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

You can defend calling a technical foul, but not a personal foul for pushing or charging.

What kind of foul would you call if a player threw the ball at an opponent during a live ball situation? This is still contact with the ball. The type of foul needs to be the same.

There is even a Case Book play with a player throwing the ball into an opponent's face. The ruling is that the official needs to use judgment to determine if it merits a technical foul or not.

I don't think I know of anywhere that says such contact must be with the player's body. It just says contact. Is the distinction really any different than a player pushing someone with their butt since it was only their clothes that contacted the opponent and not their body.

It could also be covered under the rough tactics clause.

Throwing the ball at an opponents face is an unsportsmanlike foul, live ball or dead ball.

Shoving a player out of the way is just that....with the ball or otherwise.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I don't think I know of anywhere that says such contact must be with the player's body. It just says contact. Is the distinction really any different than a player pushing someone with their butt since it was only their clothes that contacted the opponent and not their body.

There is an NFHS ruling which states that a player's clothing and hair are part of the player. This is why holding a shirt is a foul or a ponytail touching OOB is a violation if the player has the ball.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

It could also be covered under the rough tactics clause.

It may warrant a technical foul. Otherwise, I don't agree that it is covered in this part of the rules.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Throwing the ball at an opponents face is an unsportsmanlike foul, live ball or dead ball.

Exactly my point and the NFHS definition of an unsporting foul is a NON-CONTACT foul. Therefore, the NFHS considers ball to player interaction to be non-contact. Player to player interaction is contact in the NFHS understanding.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Shoving a player out of the way is just that....with the ball or otherwise.

I respectfully disagree.