I had no idea what to call....

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Dad

B1 is making a drive to the hoop. A1 is coming over to defend and it's blatantly obvious when contact occurs it's going to be a block. Before the block can occur B1 holds the ball out in front with two arms and runs it into A1. A1 continues to move forward and the force pushes B1 to the ground. B1 wildly throws the ball in an attempt to pass before falling and it goes right to A2. B1 takes a tumble. Note, the only contact was A1 running into the ball and not into B1.

Would anyone have a whistle here for anything, ever? I just thought, well that was interesting, and ran down to officiate the next play.

Did B1 travel while holding it out and running into A1?

If not, probably a good no-call if all the contact was on the ball and it wasn't unsporting.

Pedantic advice: it helps if we keep A on offense. It's not really necessary, but it's just what we're used to so it's easier to read. Take that for what it's worth.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Adam

Did B1 travel while holding it out and running into A1?

If not, probably a good no-call if all the contact was on the ball and it wasn't unsporting.

Pedantic advice: it helps if we keep A on offense. It's not really necessary, but it's just what we're used to so it's easier to read. Take that for what it's worth.

Will follow the advice. When writing it I just treated A as home and B as visitor.

I can't be 100%(Maybe 90%) sure he didn't travel, was too busy wondering what on earth one of the better players in the state was thinking instead of drawing the foul.

[deecee]

It's these ugly plays that throw me off. I pause, think did the defense do anything wrong? Then just play on. These also get the howler monkeys on the bench up with the usual, "Whaaars the fooooul?" and "Call it both ways."

Sometimes it's just ugly.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by deecee

It's these ugly plays that throw me off. I pause, think did the defense do anything wrong? Then just play on. These also get the howler monkeys on the bench and in the stands up with the usual, "Whaaars the fooooul?" and "Call it both ways."

Sometimes it's just ugly.

Fixed it for you.

[Camron Rust]

No call.....defender contacted the ball and only the ball. Hard to have anything on that.

[ODog]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

No call.....defender contacted the ball and only the ball. Hard to have anything on that.

Completely different scenario than OP, and one I'm sure has been discussed on here, but what about if A1 uses the ball to push B1 out of the way? Not necessarily under the circumstances of the OP, but just in general.

Player control foul?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by ODog

Completely different scenario than OP, and one I'm sure has been discussed on here, but what about if A1 uses the ball to push B1 out of the way? Not necessarily under the circumstances of the OP, but just in general.

Player control foul?

You will find some debate over this one....but I say yes. Using the ball as a tool to push is not within the spirit of the rules.