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AremRed Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:08am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 980123)
I agree that it is a good call, but I think that the timing of the whistle and where the official is looking when he decides to make the call is a problem.

I believe that it is obvious that the official waits until the try is released and on the way down towards the basket before making the decision that he needs to have a whistle. I'm convinced that the official felt that the player was going to score a basket to give his team the lead and because of that decided to have a whistle. If the player had passed to the corner or thrown up a wild shot which likely would have missed, I believe that the official would not have put a whistle on this action.

I don't find officiating in this manner defendable.

So your criticism is based on something that didn't happen? Ok.

AremRed Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:10am

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Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 980120)
Looks to me like the arm never extends, and the defensive player emblishes quite a bit. Did anyone else notice right after that, when OU called the timeout, the calling official heads right to the Texas bench? My first thought was why is he even engaging them at that time.

Don't try to analyze why D1 guys (especially the big dogs) do anything like that. It won't make sense to you and won't work in the type of games you do.

Nevadaref Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:12am

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 980127)
So your criticism is based on something that didn't happen? Ok.

You are saying that the official makes the call prior to the offensive player releasing his try?

You are saying that the official isn't looking at the ball on its flight towards the basket?

Both of those look clear and obvious to me in the video.

JRutledge Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:13am

Early in the Second Half--Traveling play???
 
What do you got???

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/tB5bQz3i-NQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

VaTerp Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:14am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 980107)
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/9HpEXBqAOgs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

It was close for sure. I also have no problem with the Lead calling this in transition the only time they should make this call. But it was close.

Peace

I thought block was good watching the initial replay but I was wrong.

Looks like I'm the only one who had a bad call from the L tonight. Official was well ahead of the baseline and had a good look.

Nevadaref Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:22am

Nothing. He loses control of the ball before touching the floor with anything other than a hand or foot.

OKREF Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:43am

Quote:

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 980129)
Don't try to analyze why D1 guys (especially the big dogs) do anything like that. It won't make sense to you and won't work in the type of games you do.

What type of games would that be?

Raymond Tue Feb 09, 2016 07:35am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 980132)
What do you got???

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/tB5bQz3i-NQ" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

I see a player fumbling the ball before losing his pivot foot.

#olderthanilook Tue Feb 09, 2016 08:30am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 980135)
Nothing. He loses control of the ball before touching the floor with anything other than a hand or foot.

I agree. It's a legal play. No violation.

Then there's the entertaining fan boys on the front row doing their best basketball referee impressions while begging for a traveling call. Oh, th e travesty!!! :rolleyes:

Dad Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:15am

I'm not saying this isn't a great call by the lead, but for the purpose of discussion...

Why not pass on this GT and let the trail possibly pick it up? Trail probably has a great angle on the block and maybe the ball started heading right 2-3 feet away from the rim with no chance at a make.

Just a thought, either way I think it's a good get.

Camron Rust Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:39pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 980111)
That is an excellent call. The ball is on the way down.
The Lead seems to have the best look too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bas2456 (Post 980112)
I agree the ball was on the way down.

White 11 may have gotten a piece of the ball on the initial shot block attempt. Does that change anything?

Agree. Good call....clearly on the way down. And the lead is fine to call that in transition.

Camron Rust Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKREF (Post 980120)
Looks to me like the arm never extends, and the defensive player emblishes quite a bit.

What does that have to do with anything? He led into the defender with the arm out....and that arm was rigid. That alone is more than enough for the foul.

VaTerp Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 980151)
I see a player fumbling the ball before losing his pivot foot.

Which foot is the pivot foot? It looks like the right foot to me which he lifts and then replants. You could make the same argument for the left foot as well.

I think its a travel before he loses control of the ball and falls down.

OKREF Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 980208)
What does that have to do with anything? He led into the defender with the arm out....and that arm was rigid. That alone is more than enough for the foul.

I don't think the defender was contacted enough to cause the amount of displacement he is showing. He seems to embellish quite a bit. That's all. If he had extended his arm then I could see that being enough force to move the defender that much.

VaTerp Tue Feb 09, 2016 12:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 980123)
I agree that it is a good call, but I think that the timing of the whistle and where the official is looking when he decides to make the call is a problem.

I believe that it is obvious that the official waits until the try is released and on the way down towards the basket before making the decision that he needs to have a whistle. I'm convinced that the official felt that the player was going to score a basket to give his team the lead and because of that decided to have a whistle. If the player had passed to the corner or thrown up a wild shot which likely would have missed, I believe that the official would not have put a whistle on this action.

I don't find officiating in this manner defendable.

Those are a lot of assumptions from which to criticize a correct call.

Maybe he just took time to process what he saw and then made the correct call.


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