Originally Posted by packersowner (Post 980014)

In this situation, it was an obvious foul. I probably could have elaborated that it was a transition play as well so its not like everyone was sitting around waiting for the game to expire. In the order of play, it went shot, foul, whistle and within a half second the horn went off. I would hate to be on the other end of situation like that where the clock operator anticipated a foul, stops the clock and now you got nothing. Or even better yet, not realize there was actually 3 seconds left on the clock and not call anything, meanwhile the ball goes out of bounds and you have really compounded the issue.

Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 980024)

Not that it matters in this context where the result wouldn't be affected, but if the referee is aware of half second from whistle to buzzer, wouldn't that be definite knowledge that, by strict application of the rules, would require the time to be put back on the clock -- and thereby result in the FTs being taken?

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 980002)

Disagree. Don't give up on the game just because the winner has been determined. Call the foul, if time expires while you do it, so be it.

Originally Posted by packersowner (Post 980014)

In this situation, it was an obvious foul. I probably could have elaborated that it was a transition play as well so its not like everyone was sitting around waiting for the game to expire. In the order of play, it went shot, foul, whistle and within a half second the horn went off. I would hate to be on the other end of situation like that where the clock operator anticipated a foul, stops the clock and now you got nothing. Or even better yet, not realize there was actually 3 seconds left on the clock and not call anything, meanwhile the ball goes out of bounds and you have really compounded the issue.


I am not really arguing the merit of "calling a foul" merely asking whether you would go report this to the table or simply call it ball game and head off to the locker room.

Originally Posted by SD Referee (Post 980042)

So if there is a little touch foul or perhaps a small pushing foul on a rebound with about 2 seconds left, you would call that?

Sorry, but I'm not going to do that. Unless the other person was severely fouled and it was very noticeable, I'm not calling that and we are getting out of there.

To each his own.

Originally Posted by SD Referee (Post 980042)

So if there is a little touch foul or perhaps a small pushing foul on a rebound with about 2 seconds left, you would call that?

Originally Posted by SD Referee (Post 980043)

I know that pretty much every official in the area where I work, would just walk away and not report it.

Originally Posted by SD Referee (Post 980042)

So if there is a little touch foul or perhaps a small pushing foul on a rebound with about 2 seconds left, you would call that?

Sorry, but I'm not going to do that. Unless the other person was severely fouled and it was very noticeable, I'm not calling that and we are getting out of there.

To each his own.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 980046)

Yes, I would call it.

But, if you change the wording to "So if there is a little touch or perhaps a small push on a rebound...." then I would not call it (regardless of the time left).

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 980048)

See bob's comments.

The way I'm picturing your description, I generally don't call those anyway. I'm going to call the fouls the same all game, but I may not actually report it if time expires as I call it.

A rebounding foul as time expires may get ignored with the same threshold I'd use to ignore a rebounding foul as a shot goes in or if the "fouled" player gets the rebound anyway.

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef (Post 980316)

This exact thing happened tonight. Recalling this topic on here, I moved quickly to reporting area from lead, white 14, push, no free throws, ballgame" team who was fouled on shooting foul was losing by 40 and I knew there was very little time left but it was a good foul. Coach wasn't happy but oh well. I did have to hurry my partner off floor bc he didn't know what to do.

Our escort came to locker room to say night and bring a water. Told us the coach has the kid shoot the free throws anyway after we left the floor.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 980317)

Oh good grief.

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 980318)

... it wasn't fair to the girl that she didn't get her foul shots.

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 980317)

Oh good grief.