Illegal uniform number

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I was under the impression that the T wouldn't make it legal for them to wear it, just that it would be a T if discovered while playing and they must still remove it to continue. The idea being that the threat of a T (on the head coach) would encourage the coach to make sure it is taken care of so we don't have to.

And it would apply to all uniform/apparel issues that are regulated.

This was my understanding as well, but I think the focus is on illegal player equipment (arm/leg sleeves, tights, head/wrist bands, etc.). Up to now the only penalty has been the player can't play with illegal equipment. I think the idea is to send a message that they are serious about enforcing player equipment rules, and as Cam said, putting the responsibility on the HC.

I did a google search and found that the state doing the trial is North Carolina. Interesting power-point -two year experiment. The first year (last year) the penalty was a team technical, this year the penalty is a direct T on the head coach. Mandatory enforcement & reporting requirement for officials as well - if they do not, entire crew can get penalized. Wonder how it is working out?

[jTheUmp]

I'd support either a Team T or a Direct Head Coach T for player equipment violations ONLY if they simplify the player equipment rules enough that they can actually be comprehensible to the layperson/below average official (because, let's be honest, it's really the fact that the below-average officials don't know/don't care/refuse to enforce these rules that we have any problems at all).

I've mentioned it before, but here's what I'd suggest for a player equipment rules:

Anything that isn't jersey, shorts, shoes or socks:
1) must be solid black/white/jersey colored.
2) must be the same for all teammates.

The jewelry rule can remain as-is.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

I'd support either a Team T or a Direct Head Coach T for player equipment violations ONLY if they simplify the player equipment rules enough that they can actually be comprehensible to the layperson/below average official (because, let's be honest, it's really the fact that the below-average officials don't know/don't care/refuse to enforce these rules that we have any problems at all).

They already are pretty simple. It is the gymnastics some people try to go through to get out of enforcing them that makes it complicated.

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

I've mentioned it before, but here's what I'd suggest for a player equipment rules:

Anything that isn't jersey, shorts, shoes or socks:
1) must be solid black/white/jersey colored.
2) must be the same for all teammates.

The jewelry rule can remain as-is.

Except for shoes and socks and beige being a legal color, that is the case now. Good luck getting shoes covered. With the fit of shoes being of the greatest importance, I doubt you'll ever see a color restriction on them. Likewise with medical equipment. If a doctor directs them to wear a brace, I doubt they have the choice of colors.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

They already are pretty simple.

From waist to knee, what's the difference (to an observer) between compression shorts (uniform color), short tights (black, white, beige, or jersey color, same color for all), or leg sleeves (black, white, beige, or jersey color, same color for all), that cover the entire thigh (waist to knee)?

And what defines a uniform color (compression shorts)? Jersey? Shorts?

With the exceptions above, I agree that everything else is pretty simple.

Get rid of all references to compression shorts in the rulebook and everything is pretty simple.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Get rid of all references to compression shorts in the rulebook and everything is pretty simple.

And get rid of beige as a legal color for equipment. It's 2016. Prewrap comes in all colors of the rainbow now.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

This was my understanding as well, but I think the focus is on illegal player equipment (arm/leg sleeves, tights, head/wrist bands, etc.). Up to now the only penalty has been the player can't play with illegal equipment. I think the idea is to send a message that they are serious about enforcing player equipment rules, and as Cam said, putting the responsibility on the HC.

I did a google search and found that the state doing the trial is North Carolina. Interesting power-point -two year experiment. The first year (last year) the penalty was a team technical, this year the penalty is a direct T on the head coach. Mandatory enforcement & reporting requirement for officials as well - if they do not, entire crew can get penalized. Wonder how it is working out?

Care to share the link?

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Care to share the link?

https://www.nchsaa.org/sites/default...0Point.CD_.ppt

see slides 10 thru 15

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

https://www.nchsaa.org/sites/default...0Point.CD_.ppt



see slides 10 thru 15

Link doesn't work.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Link doesn't work.

works fine from my PC....it will download and then open the powerpoint presentation

try this one

http://www.slideshare.net/Slidestep1...rules-emphasis

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

works fine from my PC....it will download and then open the powerpoint presentation

try this one

http://www.slideshare.net/Slidestep1...rules-emphasis

Thanks. That worked. I'm on an iPad.

[Camron Rust]

What seems to be missing from the slides on the power point presentation of the pilot program is whether the player can continue to wear the offending item.

Being silent on that point, I would think that the existing rules still remain...must be removed to participate. However, that could certainly not be the case.