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BigT Wed Jan 27, 2016 04:15pm

What have you learned this year?
 
I have learned to call the obvious and do not let them unsporting behavior of bench personnel get the best of me on my face.

What about you this deep into the HS/college season?

BryanV21 Wed Jan 27, 2016 04:19pm

Ignore the coaches.

If they have a question that they have to have answered they'll get my attention eventually. Otherwise I don't want to hear it, and if I do then I'll tag em.

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Smitty Wed Jan 27, 2016 04:22pm

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 978403)
Ignore the coaches.

If they have a question that they have to have answered they'll get my attention eventually. Otherwise I don't want to hear it, and if I do then I'll tag em.

I've learned the opposite - be more approachable to coaches. It has improved my court demeanor significantly. I've found that being more patient and approachable, and even just chatting briefly about the game during dead balls when I'm near the coach has had a very positive affect on my games.

BatteryPowered Wed Jan 27, 2016 05:02pm

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 978404)
I've learned the opposite - be more approachable to coaches. It has improved my court demeanor significantly. I've found that being more patient and approachable, and even just chatting briefly about the game during dead balls when I'm near the coach has had a very positive affect on my games.

This

I have, on a few occasions, chatted with a coach. It may be answering a question or it may be just "remembering the olden days". They only last a couple of seconds but it makes you more "human" to them and not just a shirt and whistle.

A good example is a varsity boys game recently. I called a foul on Red 44 and after giving the preliminary call at the spot he said "Yep, got him on the follow through." Apparently the coach heard him and after I reported the foul and get into position as T he asks "Remember when we had to raise our hand when a foul was called?" I chuckled and said "Yep, and I remember getting bird-dogged as well." As he turned he said "The times, they have changed. We're getting old."

Thinking back...darn, he was out of his box...shoulda whacked him. :eek: :p

Just last night in a sub-varsity boys game we had a player getting frustrated. The guy he was charged with covering was only about 4 inches taller and considerable faster. As we were lining up to shoot free-throws I stood next to him and as I "wiped the ball off" on my pants I said to him "Settle down...it's just a basketball game". His teammate on the other side of the lane heard and said "Yea dude...just do the best you can." He was fine after that.

At least for me, talking can...when you pick you spots...go a long way and can keep the game moving.

JRutledge Wed Jan 27, 2016 05:24pm

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 978404)
I've learned the opposite - be more approachable to coaches. It has improved my court demeanor significantly. I've found that being more patient and approachable, and even just chatting briefly about the game during dead balls when I'm near the coach has had a very positive affect on my games.

He actually did not say anything about being less approachable. He said to ignore coaches and often coaches are not asking questions, they are making statements or trying to get a response to things that you cannot win on either way.

I also feel being "approachable" means different things to different people. Some officials feel like they have to respond to coaches about everything and that can be very detracting to the ultimate job and that is to call fouls.

If I have learned anything, just walk away when the conversation is not going anywhere. Better to walk away then keep debating something they are not going to see it your way or agree with your explanation.

Peace

deecee Wed Jan 27, 2016 05:34pm

I learned that this is a part time gig, and sometimes coaches/kids/parents react/act like this is our full time job. Do your best but always keep priorities straight. Family-job-refreeing, in that order.

I also learned that I need to lose 15-20 lbs.

BryanV21 Wed Jan 27, 2016 05:35pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 978408)
He actually did not say anything about being less approachable. He said to ignore coaches and often coaches are not asking questions, they are making statements or trying to get a response to things that you cannot win on either way.

I also feel being "approachable" means different things to different people. Some officials feel like they have to respond to coaches about everything and that can be very detracting to the ultimate job and that is to call fouls.

If I have learned anything, just walk away when the conversation is not going anywhere. Better to walk away then keep debating something they are not going to see it your way or agree with your explanation.

Peace

Perhaps the word "ignore" is a little harsh, but J gets what I'm saying.

I've worked hard this season at managing the coaches, and that oftentimes means ignoring them unless necessary. That doesn't mean their questions or concerns are ignored, it means anything other than a question/concern is ignored. More often than not they're just blowing off steam, and the more I pay attention to such things the more problems I have to deal with.

And when I said they'd eventually get my attention, it means I'm not going to stop or hold up the game to speak with them. What I may do is wait until I'm close to him and free to talk, then I'll say something like "I heard what you were asking before, I just needed to wait until I got a chance to address you... yada, yada, yada". By doing that I'm not only avoiding any type of hold-up to the game, but the coach may get enough time to cool off over a call he may not have agreed with.

RedAndWhiteRef Wed Jan 27, 2016 05:50pm

Definitely agree on the whole "be more approachable to coaches" thing. I used to get bent out of shape when a coach questioned me. Sometimes, they really didn't see what was happening and they're truly just asking. I called a foul once in a tight game and on the way down the court the coach asked me what his player did. I kind of snapped a reply at him and he was like "Whoa, I'm just asking because I didn't see the play!" I felt kinda bad.

I've learned that it's okay to admit you missed a call, whether it's to a coach, player, or your partner. I missed the most obvious travel in VHSL history a few weeks ago, coach was upset. Next dead ball I happened to be right next to him at trail and I just said "Coach, I missed that one." He appreciated it.

JeffM Wed Jan 27, 2016 06:01pm

Remember who was fouled prior to the technical foul
 
Twice, I awared technical fouls to players for reactions to foul calls they disagreed with. After reporting the personal foul and then the technical foul, I could not recall which player was fouled. Fortunately, my partners remembered.

WhistlesAndStripes Wed Jan 27, 2016 06:44pm

I learned not to tell a kid sitting on the bench to shut up, no matter how much he deserves it. Just whack him.

crosscountry55 Wed Jan 27, 2016 07:52pm

I learned…just last night, in fact…to always carry a spare set of contact lenses in my bag.

It turns out soft contact lenses can tear. Who knew?

There were eight eyes on the court last night and I had four of them.


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bas2456 Wed Jan 27, 2016 10:30pm

I've learned how to let plays develop more, which has cut down on some of the unnecessary fouls I've called earlier in my career. I've also learned how to be a better Lead (in two man), getting wider along the end line so that I'm not sprinting out to the corner when the ball is swung that way...I'm already there.

Welpe Thu Jan 28, 2016 01:01am

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Originally Posted by crosscountry55 (Post 978419)
It turns out soft contact lenses can tear. Who knew?


I did but you didn't ask me. As somebody that has worn them for years, I always make sure to bring extras. I've even managed to blink both of them out of my eyes when I was wrestling in a match back in school. Always carry spares. :)

BigT Thu Jan 28, 2016 08:49am

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Originally Posted by BryanV21 (Post 978403)
Ignore the coaches.

If they have a question that they have to have answered they'll get my attention eventually. Otherwise I don't want to hear it, and if I do then I'll tag em.

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My normal personality Bryan is not ignoring people. Trusting people and its thinking people have reasonable expectations. It is kinda making me cynical and wanting to do exactly what you say. Ignore the coaches. Last night BJV his kids struggled on a layup or two and as lead they missed and the defense let them. He is asking me up the court wasnt there a foul. I said NO.

When coaches ask about plays 80 feet away I lose respect. Dont really want to talk to them any more..

BigT Thu Jan 28, 2016 08:50am

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Originally Posted by Smitty (Post 978404)
I've learned the opposite - be more approachable to coaches. It has improved my court demeanor significantly. I've found that being more patient and approachable, and even just chatting briefly about the game during dead balls when I'm near the coach has had a very positive affect on my games.

Been working on this side too. Sometimes I just dont have the patience for it.


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