+1

Also the ladies seem to do the box out after a three point attempt and stick thier Butt into the shooter.

I appreciate it. I assumed you weren't just pulling that out of thin air.

Would the team control foul cause the ball to become dead immediately similar to a field goal attempt?

Yes.

So then the free throw should have never happened and it should have been B ball at the spot nearest the foul?

No - think it through.....this was the first of two merited free throws...

Are you saying/asking that we take the ball from Team A's free thrower (the TCF nullifies the pending FT) and give it to Team B for a spot throw-in?

What rule are you using to take away A's free throws?

Hmmm ... interesting scenario. If there is no player/team control when the ball is at the disposal of the free-thrower when using the ROP procedure, wouldn't that mean that a timeout could not be granted? Only outcome ... violation.

No, the rule states that a team may be granted a time-out request made when the ball is at its disposal.

Has been a while since I read op. Didn't realize it was first of two.

Yes I was asking that. I forgot the original scenario and didn't realize it was the first of two.

I was thinking that a team control foul causes the ball to become dead. How can the free throw take place if the ball is dead?



Can the free throw still be scored if a team control foul has already happened?

Really athletic girls have three of them.

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I would agree with you, but as Bob and Adam point out, the way the rule is written, it doesn't say that the ball is at the disposal of the player on a free-throw.

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ART. 2

A team is in control of the ball:

d. When a player of the team has disposal of the ball for a throw-in.

And if that's the case, there's no team control either. If that premise is correct, how can a time-out be granted when using the ROP procedure for a free-throw? Good discussion for a different thread though, since that's a different topic.

TC isn't an issue for granting a time-out.
It is never sufficient nor required (other than as a consequence of having met other requirements).

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a. the ball is at the disposal or in control of a player or his/her team.
b. the ball is dead, unless replacement of a disqualified....

Requirement A does not require TC to be in place. In fact, the lone exception here seems to be the case where the ball is at the disposal of a FT shooter.

No. It says that disposal does not create TC (on a FT). There is still disposal.