Originally Posted by deecee (Post 977524)

There will be an administrative T against his team for the book not being ready in time.

Originally Posted by LRZ (Post 977522)

Typically, we consider the home book the official record, but it's not necessarily so. Note Rule 2-4-3: "The referee shall designate the official scorebook and official scorer prior to the scheduled starting time of the game." I seem to recall, years ago, the rules did provide for the home book as official, but that may simply be my aging, faulty memory.

I work a lot of games below the varsity level, in middle school or junior high, where it is not unusual to have students working the book and clock. On rare occasions, where the home scorer is a novice and the visitor has some experience, I've designated the visitor's book as official. In any event, I always remind both scorers to check score and fouls constantly so we can catch any discrepancies promptly.

Originally Posted by BigCat (Post 977529)

2-11-11. Home book shall be official…unless R rules otherwise.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 977527)

The book doesn't need to be ready in time. The teams just need to give the information to the scorer(s) in time. And, since the V book was complete, my guess is that the teams complied with that.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 977527)

The book doesn't need to be ready in time. The teams just need to give the information to the scorer(s) in time. And, since the V book was complete, my guess is that the teams complied with that.

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 977540)

At the time I misspoke and we also dodged another contentious moment in that the information that the V scorer copied had the correct starters. IF that wasn't the case I could see any hope of communication with the H coach would have probably ended there for the game.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 977545)

If V is designated "official" and V mis-copies the starters, then that's still not an issue.

(Well, it's not a T. It can lead to an issue if H now doesn't trust V.)

Originally Posted by deecee (Post 977547)

IF the starters were never given to them because V just went to the H book and copied what they had and looked to a previous game that had the starters listed and used that?

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 977574)

Well, that's different from the previous scenario (or the assumptions made in the previous scenario). And it doesn't matter whether it's the H book or the V book.

Originally Posted by stevehullsc96 (Post 977436)

Was it ok to hit the horn then (as opposed to a true dead ball) to have the R come to the table and settle this? Also, does the VBook have any say in the situation at all, if Hbook is sure he's correct and no one else has any reason to question him?

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 977584)

Yes. It's simple, give the books a minute to go through everything and see if they can find the discrepancy. If they cannot, go with the official book and tell the other book to update to match the official book.

Originally Posted by so cal lurker (Post 977614)

Why? Isn't all you have to do is say "that's the official book, and that's what matters"? I would think since the other book is un-official, you would not instruct them to do anything.

Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 977666)

You are saying you would allow both books to continue with a discrepancy?