Traveling?

[mrroberts]

Offensive player gains possession while having both knees on the floor. Player lifts one knee from the floor to move to a position in which he now has one foot and one knee on the floor. The one knee stayed on the floor the entire time.

Traveling??

[OKREF]

Some will say yes, some will say no. Any attempt to rise is a travel. I would have a travel.

4.44.5.b...A player, after gaining control while on the floor and touching with other than hand or foot, may not attempt to stand or get up.

[bob jenkins]

In what will prove to be a wasted attempt to stop this from turning into another 100 post thread, it depends on whether you judge this to be an "attempt to stand" (or whatever the specific wording is).

Some will say it is.

Some will say it isn't.

Some will say if it's immediately followed by a pass it's legal, if the player remains in that position for any length of time it's a violation.

The specific action has not been covered in any case / interp that I'm aware of.

[Rob1968]

To my understanding, NCAA and NFHS have different opinions of this movement.

[Dad]

ART. 5 . . . A player holding the ball:
a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than hand or foot
b. After gaining control while on the floor and touching with other than hand or foot, may not attempt to get up or stand.

I've passed on a few players taking their knee off the floor, but usually I consider it an attempt to get up

4.44.5B: Any attempt to get to the feet is traveling unless A1 is dribbling.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Dad

ART. 5 . . . A player holding the ball:
a. May not touch the floor with a knee or any other part of the body other than hand or foot
b. After gaining control while on the floor and touching with other than hand or foot, may not attempt to get up or stand.

I've passed on a few players taking their knee off the floor, but usually I consider it an attempt to get up

4.44.5B: Any attempt to get to the feet is traveling unless A1 is dribbling.

Again, it all depends on whether you deem the action an attempt to get or stand up, or if the player was just repositioning. If the player keeps the one knee on the ground and just stays like that for a few seconds, I don't think that would be determined as an attempt to get up.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Rob1968

To my understanding, NCAA and NFHS have different opinions of this movement.

Correct -- NCAA (at least W) it's only if the pivot foot moves. It always does.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by mrroberts

Offensive player gains possession while having both knees on the floor. Player lifts one knee from the floor to move to a position in which he now has one foot and one knee on the floor. The one knee stayed on the floor the entire time.

Traveling??

I consider this movement to be a travel. I don't even try to figure out if they are "repositioning" or standing up. It's a travel and we move on.

[Jay R]

They should adopt the NBA rule and make it legal. I never understood the logic behind making this act illegal.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Jay R

They should adopt the NBA rule and make it legal. I never understood the logic behind making this act illegal.

What would be the logic for it being legal?

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

What would be the logic for it being legal?

Okay, I'll bite:

4-44-5 b. After gaining control while on the floor and touching with other than hand or foot, (A player holding the ball) may not attempt to get up or stand.

Logic: Humans, as bi-pedal beings, stand on two feet, and an equivalent phrase is "to be up." Therefore, to be on one knee and one foot is not "to stand" nor is it "being up."

4.44.5 SITUATION D: refers to "assume(ing) a standing position" and "attempts to stand."

Logic: "Attempting to stand" must refer to "attempting to come to a position on two feet, as previously stated, a human is a bi-pedal being. (See above.)

4.44.5 SITUATION B: refers to "any attempt to get to the feet" as constituting a violation.

Logic: Note the use of the plural "feet." Thus, this ruling is consistent with the logic previously stated, that is, an attempt to get to a position of "one foot on the floor and the other leg contacting the floor with a knee," does not meet the criteria of standing, or getting up, (See above.)

Not every person who gets in the pool is intending to swim to the other side.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Jay R

They should adopt the NBA rule and make it legal. I never understood the logic behind making this act illegal.

Nooooooooooo! Please God no!!!!!!!

The NBA is unwatchable garbage basketball. If anything let's do whatever we can do to make the game less like the NBA!