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Old Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:50pm
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man, i have a great chart for this that really helps and it will not let me upload it. i've tried everything!

two things to think about when "deeming excessive" are:
1. elbows swinging faster than torso, and
2. wind up, contact, follow through

in 1, if the elbows are swinging faster than the torso, then this is a "no exceptions" whistle....whether you have:
no contact - violation
below the shoulders contact - Intentional
above the shoulders contact - Flagrant

in 2, if you have two of the three, you can deem excessive.
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