I'm calling a violation, but here's why I say jump ball. Looks like there's probably a hand on the ball when she starts swinging. If you're not going to call the violation then she's using undue roughness to get the ball away. Imo, calling a jump ball is better than waiting for someone to get wacked. Violation is the much better call, no question.

What exactly do you think this game has looked like after watching this play?

Ok, so off topic but....

3-person crew in a California sub-varsity tournament? That is an unexpected sight.

WHy don't you start a new thread instead of trying to derail this one?

Like a low level girl's game.

OK, but what kind of activity are you assuming has occurred to justify a made up call?

Heaven forbid we would want to discuss how to improve as officials. :rolleyes: And my comment did talk about the existing play, I said white 4 could be called for a push immediately prior to getting popped in the face. Have a nice day.

*Evidently 'ballgame99' is referring to the use of 'preventive officiating'; which is a point well-taken. From my perch, I've seen some rebounders (A1) who immediately use the "chin it" technique when they have obtained control of the rebound. Visualize: holding ball close to chest with elbows horizontal and static. Now, if B1 want to nit-pik and swipe at the ball (instead of playing patient on-ball defense) once it's in that secured position, then I will call a 'hit' foul on B1 to prevent A1 from having to escalate his/her protective measures (i.e., by the use of 'elbow swinging')--ergo a turnover for team A due to the violation cited in "9-13-1-Penalty". So, I guess one could say that I tend to err towards the 'rebounder's rights' to protect the ball/posession instead of penalizing him/her.

I've already made my case for what I said. Doubt anything else is going to appease you.

What's the signal for this?:p

And what if all the swipes at the ball are clean? I was very adept at popping the ball out of a rebounder's hands.

(Why can't people just call the game and not make shit up?)

I feel trying to justify a held ball is only cause one saw the end result of this video. In no world is the action in the video close to a held ball. Sometimes, **** happens.

I'd lean toward a flagrant foul. Wind up, impact, follow through....there's at least two on this play...impact above shoulders and a follow through.

Not likely, but possible that L had a foul, she said something immediately and he then had a T... he may just be guilty of quick signals.

I had that thought previously as well, but then thought no, because the T would deserve to have a whistle of it's own on it as well, and there was no second whistle to go with the T.