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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:30am
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Shoot the Bonus?

White on offense commits a foul by displacing the defensive player away from the ball. This is the 7th team foul on white. Does Blue shoot the bonus?
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:37am
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White on offense commits a foul by displacing the defensive player away from the ball. This is the 7th team foul on white. Does Blue shoot the bonus?
No, Offensive Foul. Team Control
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 10:40am
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 11:16am
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I was bewildered last week to see bonus shot on an offensive foul in my son's HS JV game. I started by thinking, wow, that rule changed a *long* time ago . . . then it dawned on me it wasn't just an offensive foul, it was a player control foul. As far as I know, that was never a bonus opportunity . . . some of these JV games are quite an adventure (and others are quite well officiated, quite a spectrum). . .
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How are officials still screwing this up at the JV level?
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 12:03pm
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How are officials still screwing this up at the JV level?
Cause they're JV Officials.
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 12:05pm
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How are officials still screwing this up at the JV level?
The same way officials at all levels screw it up. They do not slow it down and do not think through the rule.

Many people only think of a TC foul as something that happens during an illegal screen and do not think much more than that situation.

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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 12:34pm
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How are officials still screwing this up at the JV level?
Beginners here work JV games. Depends where you live, I guess.
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How are officials still screwing this up at the JV level?
This really depends on regional issues. In some areas, JV is entry level. In others, it takes time to get even to that level.
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Old Tue Dec 15, 2015, 02:29pm
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How are officials still screwing this up at the JV level?
Better question, how can someone who has been posting since Feb 2007 not know the rule?
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 04:12pm
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Blood Rule???

A one point game late in the 3rd quarter. A1 is fouled by B1 and goes to the line to shoot 2 Free throws. Before the foul shots blood is seen on A1 jersey and B1 has a bloody lip.

We decided to give time to get jersey changed for A1 and B1 to get his lip taken care of. This did not take a lot of time. Now, I realize the rule states that players must leave the floor for Blood, and can be brought back in the game with a timeout. But since both players were key players on each team we decided to handle it in a different way and let them stay without the charged timeout. Neither team was gaining an advantage or disadvantage based on the rule as we saw it.

Was this bad game management since we disregarded the rule, or was this appropriate based on the situation? OK fellas, let me have it!
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2015, 09:48pm
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A one point game late in the 3rd quarter. A1 is fouled by B1 and goes to the line to shoot 2 Free throws. Before the foul shots blood is seen on A1 jersey and B1 has a bloody lip.

We decided to give time to get jersey changed for A1 and B1 to get his lip taken care of. This did not take a lot of time. Now, I realize the rule states that players must leave the floor for Blood, and can be brought back in the game with a timeout. But since both players were key players on each team we decided to handle it in a different way and let them stay without the charged timeout. Neither team was gaining an advantage or disadvantage based on the rule as we saw it.

Was this bad game management since we disregarded the rule, or was this appropriate based on the situation? OK fellas, let me have it!
What other rules did you decide to ignore during this game?
Did you allow illegal headbands? Did you call traveling? Did you let each team have twelve seconds to advance the ball to the frontcourt?
See my point?
Why would you set aside a clearly written rule? If the teams wanted to have those players remain in the game at that point, then they needed to use a timeout, otherwise just get subs in for them. What's the big deal?

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